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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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    If you have the preference, real or stated due to peer pressure, "I am relatively indifferent to money", people will tend to give you proposals which cut a value cake such that all the money frosting it ends up on their side.

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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        There are many things you can put on a value cake. Creative fulfillment. Social impact. The ability to work in a bathrobe. etc, etc Money is one of the relatively few which you can bank for later in life when your needs or preferences change, and it tends to compound.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        I broadly try to avoid telling people "Your preferences are not the right preferences" but I sometimes struggle with needing to say "Your preferences lead fairly directly to your outcomes."

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      4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        n.b. If you're cutting a value cake with someone and the money question comes up and you're worried about being seen as greedy, messaging along the lines of "Oh, you know, the money is only as important to me as it is to you" might help you.

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      5. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        "Valuation? Oh I'd never prioritize my selection of investors based on valuation. Pish posh. I want the best possible fit for a 10 year working relationship. Now granted I have a fiduciary duty to get the best possible valuation from the best fit, but we're all capitalists."

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      6. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        "Salary expectations? Oh I'd never take a job just because it offered the highest possible compensation package. I want to to the best work of my career to date. Contingent on this being a great fit, if we arrive at a number which is mutually satisfactory, great, let's do it."

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      7. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 26
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        "Won't they know I'm lying?" They, and it is very possible that the "they" you really are modeling is not the actual flesh-and-blood human you are speaking to but rather the emergent behavior of a system, are socialized to treat negotiation as more of a dance than as testimony.

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      2. Visakan Veerasamy‏ @visakanv Feb 26
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        Replying to @patio11

        I used to hold "I am relatively indifferent to money" as a position more strongly, until I realized that my personal discomfort with negotiating, etc was a bottleneck that was slowing me down from doing good for others. In the process of rooting it out but it's taking a while

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      3. Visakan Veerasamy‏ @visakanv Feb 26
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        original premise: visa is happy being a broke nerd who doesn't think or care about money new information: when visa has money he can travel around the world and organize events that make other nerds happy painful conclusion: visa being a broke nerd is keeping other nerds lonely

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      1. Pat McCulloch‏ @patmcculloch Feb 26
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        Also - even if you are indifferent to money personally, it helps to think in the larger context - would I rather the for-profit company that employs me have more, or, say, some charity I think does good work? Easy enough to give away some of that extra money if you get it.

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      2. Francisco Presencia‏ @FPresencia Feb 27
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        I've noticed that compensation is fairly correlated to how much others listen to what you have to say in a company. Some times through the proxy of seniority, but not always. Even for the same message, "one hour of my time costs you $500 vs $50 vs $5" changes things dramatically

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