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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 19
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      Dad: "I'll spend a few hours getting the addresses out of Zillow." Me: "I can probably do it faster." Dad: "How so?" Me: "Well first I'll open the console then..." Dad: "So, computer stuff?" Me: "I computer stuff; you do the real estate stuff." Dad: "I can do real estate stuff."

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 19
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      Probably not maximally relevant for Dad as he's retiring but, FWIW, almost literally every white collar professional gets more dangerous when they can comfortably bang out the local equivalent of: $$(".list-card-addr").forEach(function(e) { console.log(e.innerHTML)})

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 19
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      "Yeah but then they'd be a frontend engineer." I mean if you can learn enough Excel to be dangerous you can learn enough jQuery to be dangerous, especially since you can chain it straight to Excel for the analysis portion of the task.

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        2. Lester Bangs  🌐‏ @Leslie_C_Bangs Feb 19
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          How does a non-engineer figure out the most useful parts of programming to learn? Is there a “coding for non-engineer white collar professionals” book?

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        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 19
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          I have no satisfying answer to this question, but if that book ever gets published, it should be shelved next to "Math for people who aren't math teachers" and "English: the good parts."

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        1. Michael Hartl‏Verified account @mhartl Feb 19
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          You’re pretty close to the literal name of my JavaScript tutorial. (Originally I planned to cover jQuery, but it turned out querySelector and querySelectorAll let me do the whole thing in vanilla JS.) https://www.learnenough.com/javascript pic.twitter.com/APnRJ6NZCA

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        1. Antony Lewis‏ @antony_btc Feb 19
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          Do your have any favourite resources to recommend for getting to "dangerous" level in this context?

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        1. Utsav Ahuja‏ @avastu Feb 19
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          Since I no longer work there, I'm happy to plug Redfin which has a download CSV button for this stuffs, so your dad can do it too!pic.twitter.com/giGPtd2qDv

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        1. Arjun Kannan‏ @arj_shiv Feb 19
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          Arjun Kannan Retweeted Arjun Kannan

          We had an intern scrape a 2000-prospect list in a minute by doing this. So worth it to empower and show them it's not 10x the work for 20k prospects Creating fluidity between "business" and "tech" is super fulfilling - learned that from your content 🙌https://twitter.com/arj_shiv/status/1227033126163173377?s=21 …

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          Arjun Kannan @arj_shiv
          it's easy to create a wall between "business" and "technology". in trying to break the wall, I'm trying collaborative learning days where people show each other what they do and how they do it. jury's still out but it's insane how many ideas and friendships have already formed
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        1. Leon Bambrick‏ @secretGeek Feb 19
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          You can convince them by saying “dad, how would you like to see a LOT of dollar signs in your future?”

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        1. Patrick Figures‏ @PatrickFigures Feb 19
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          Where would you go to reliably get dangerous in things like jQuery? Any resources you like?

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        1. John Dimatos‏ @dimatosj Feb 19
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          Definitely don’t need to be an engineer to write some pseudo code on upwork.

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        2. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Feb 19
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          This still doesn’t seem considerably different than the previous objection. Is there a way to be able to comfortably bang out that previous line without also being at least basically a junior software engineer?

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        3. Matt Guttman‏ @RealtimeAI Feb 19
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          i.e. are you saying anything different than “learning software engineering would benefit basically any professional”?

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