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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 17
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    Interestingly, people who are skeptical of the existence of 10X programmers are often extremely convinced of the existence of a 10X+ dynamic range in the productivity of firms.

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      1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 17
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        “Really?” Yes, particularly if it is phrased “Why are startups making cat photo sharing apps and not doing cancer research.” That’s a productivity argument.

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      2.  🤯‏ @krrishd Feb 17
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        can’t tell if this is pro-existence of 10X programmers or anti-existence of 10X firms (assuming pro-10x programmer?)

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 17
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        I am overwhelmingly convinced of the existence of productivity differences and do not think that 10X approaches a reasonable upper bound on them.

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      2. cj @ scalar‏ @ScalarElectric Feb 17
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        I wonder if proposing the co-existence of 30% Engineers and 300% Engineers would make any difference to their perspective.

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      3. Zain Rizvi  💻 🔬‏ @ZainRzv Feb 17
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        Replying to @ScalarElectric @patio11

        I like your mindset shift 10x is a lot harder to believe if you consider yourself to be 1x (with or without impostor syndrome) 1x vs 10x isn't a binary state, it's a spectrum

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      2. Eric Guroff‏ @eguroff Feb 17
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        I suspect people who are skeptical of 10x programmers have a mental model of software development work where Business People define Requirements and programmers develop them. Much harder to be 10x better at implementing a spec than finding a solution that took 1/10th the effort.

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      3. Benjamin Köppchen‏ @keppla Feb 17
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        While i agree in general, i've seen enough cases of people/teams failing to implement a simple quasi-spec that amounts to a CRUD-application, without any catches, that i'm inclined to disagree that it is particularly hard to be 10x by "just" providing what asked

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      2. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Feb 17
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        The implication is that 10x programmers are 10x only because they're 0.1x at knowledge sharing with their more junior peers (in bad cases they might even have negative effects). The default mode for programmers should be "collaborate", not "compete" (vs firms)

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      3. stucchio‏ @stucchio Feb 17
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        I don't think anyone really believes this. I've seen 10x guys trying to teach their peers things (e.g. a data structure other than list/hash table) and get met with hostility by the same folks saying 10x doesn't exist. The 10x guy isn't usually competing. He's just doing.

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      1. threestationsquare‏ @threestationsq Feb 17
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        I thought the anti-"10x programmer" argument was usually that productivity was a product of programmer-problem-environment triples, not programmers in a vacuum, which seems entirely consistent with (and indeed would predict) the existence of 10x firms.

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