However, I am credibly informed that PMing is the highest expected value track over the length of the career at large tech firms, mostly due to a) extreme elasticity of compensation packages if you successfully PM on core products and b) advancement opportunities to e.g. biz lead
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Obligatory disclaimers: depends on the company, depends sometimes on the org within the company, requires you to make guesses a few years out as to how the market evolves, and *points to disclaimer about this Twitter representing personal views* that.
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PMs tell engineers what to do. Engineers do it. I don’t see how, from a business perspective, PMs could have a higher ceiling than engineers
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I think the truth of that generalization depends an awful lot on where you're working and what you're working on.
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The biggest factor is whether you’re a more natural fit for PM or for Eng. Hardly anybody has the innate abilities to be a top 10% PM *and* a top 10% Eng. So the best advice IME is to ask them to determine where they’re more likely to be within the top 10% and maximize EV there.
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This is the correct answer. I really want to meet the person who can do both well though!
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Seems irrelevant in this case. An individual gets paid more doing the job they have the most skills and enthusiasm for. Any differences in pay scales between disciplines are blown away by difference between average performer and great performer.
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When we started http://customer.io , I was anxious. My cofounder was an engineer. I was a PM. If we failed, he could get a job immediately or contract but as a PM, how would I convince someone to pay me? I agree a great PM is worth a ton of value later in their career.
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What’s interesting is that this implies good PM roles were/are harder to come by in your market. If pure economics were at play, that lack of demand for PMs (or oversupply of them) should imply salaries would be comparatively lower than for engineers.
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I’m an aspiring PM new grad. Do you think it’s a good idea to slog out a few years as a SWE and then do PM, or directly do PM? I’ve heard conflicting advice and would love to get your tights on it
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Dive into PM. I work with some awesome associate product managers
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