"That only happens to ..." I respect the folks working at AppAmaGooBookSoft a lot. I have met a lot of them, including a lot at my impression of this level, and my capsule summary is "Mostly, talented professionals who are not very dissimilar from other talented professionals."
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"Why do you harp on engineering salaries so often?" Weird hobbies, plus an abiding interest in the wellbeing of geeks. Every time someone negotiates this package I'm happy for them, and would be even happier if they got the next $50k versus e.g. Google keeping it.
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There is an ongoing ecosystemic negotiation happening not between particular engineers and particular firms but between founders, talent, private capital, and public capital, and separately between the set of those and the wider world, on how to cut the cake engineers bake.
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I'm as capitalist as the day is long, but when I think e.g. the employee options pool by convention gets sized at 20%, I think "I mean, Schelling points are Schelling points, but I attach no moral significance to that number. If it were 40%, then it would be 40%; also fair."
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Similarly "Google, a sophisticated organization which has an informational advantage in every conversation with every geek ever, was OK with paying candidates similar to this ~$150k in 2005. That may have been fair, but it certainly doesn't upper bound the numbers that are fair."
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Which is tragic because anybody with solid interview skills and planning can pit deep pocketed companies against each other This guy is smart but he's no John Carmack (Sorry J). The vast majority of people can do it
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yeah, there's a certain implicit swear to secrecy about counteroffers, but... I no longer work there ;)
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If we all shared what our comp is/was at various points we could all negotiate better. One of my friends convinced me to ask for 30% more than I was going to be offered, I did and got hired a level higher and at 35%+ original offer.
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I’m lucky to have friends who could offer this advice. Not everyone does, especially non Asian minorities (and we have our secrecy shit).
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yet I never heard of programmers having "agents". Your average college athlete gets better advice and negotiation than your top FAANG employee.
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There's at least 1 explicitly programmer oriented talent agency -- here, I went and found an article about it. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/24/programmers-price/amp … Very sure there are a few more.
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