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Patrick McKenzie

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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 3
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      HN asks: how to address a 12 month gap in employment prior to current job search? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22225372 … My answer, regardless of cause: “I took some time off to explore projects and am excited to get back to work.” then *move on*.

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 3
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      This is one of those hiring questions to which there are no right answers but many wrong answers; your answer will be scored as either neutral or disqualifying. Another question with similar dynamics: “Why did you leave your last job?”

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 3
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      It is entirely reasonable to leave a job because it missed payroll, because you had an irreconcilable difference with a boss, because the office had poisonous politics, because you were bored, or because you were denied promotion. If you say that out loud, 2 data points on you.

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        2. Cherub‏ @cherubberry Feb 3
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          What is data points? Good or bad ?

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        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 3
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          There is almost no conceivable way to have either the content of the message or the data point “Candidate said the content of the message out loud” be read in one’s favor.

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        2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Feb 3
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          “Looking for new challenges” is ambition; “bored” means you lack control over your own mental state. Much of the work at the new company will be “boring”, too, but extremely necessary; that is one reason they they pay you a salary rather than expect you to do it cheerily for free

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        1. Michael W Lucas Never Left Home Anyway‏ @mwlauthor Feb 3
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          The only time I've felt comfortable answering that question honestly? "Two years ago, the company had over 500 employees. After the buyout, they're under 100. I'm jumping before I get pushed." Other than that, I've always thought up something innocuous on a per-interview basis.

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        1. Amar Anand‏ @amar Feb 3
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          Why wouldn’t you say “missed payroll” and how would you positively reframe it (if at all)?

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        1. Patrick‏ @0xPCK Feb 3
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          We need to optimize hiring for liars and excluding people who think they should be paid for working.

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        1. Matt Bloomfield‏ @mattlovesjenni Feb 3
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          I've always struggled with this - what are good reasons for leaving a job you don't love. Looking for new challenges? Hoping to expand your world view?

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          And how would you frame it if the last employer fired you for whatever reason? How do you make that appear neutral?

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        1. BenderV‏ @ben_derv Feb 4
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          Say the truth is usually harmless, but best to replicate with "why the guy before me left your company?" Tit for that.

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