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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Jan 26
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    Patrick McKenzie Retweeted Colin Percival

    You can also watch a lot of developers “spend thousands in a vain attempt to save hundreds” just by putting a usage-based price tag on something. (It doesn’t even have to be denominated in money; we’ll golf any available metric.)https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/1221354454181539840 …

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    Colin Percival @cperciva
    Never underestimate the bandwidth of a bored open source developer. Many developers, if given $100 of hardware, will happily provide $10,000 worth of free labour in their efforts to make it work.
    5:22 AM - 26 Jan 2020
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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Jan 26
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        I remember vividly a conversation with @tqbf when I was at his office regarding optimizations I could make to Redis to prevent me from having to go up to a 1 GB VPS. “How much does it cost extra?” “$10 a month.” “Then why are we having this conversation?”

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Jan 26
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        In addition to being reflexive nosetweaking, I’ll point out that this is a reason to avoid usage-based pricing for developer-oriented tools and, instead, orient pricing around proxies for sophistication.

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      4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Jan 26
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        Not only is it better for you, it will be better for your customers, as relatively few developers say “Oh we’re actually *not* sophisticated. I would like my account downgraded to Total Noob, please.” and so this won’t incentivize unproductive reinventing of wheels optimization.

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      5. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 Jan 26
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        “What’s a proxy for sophistication?” Features like SAML which strongly suggest there is a materially sized business using the software with standardized guidelines for vendor management administered by professionals, as opposed to one dev trying things out.

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      1. Steven Moody‏ @sjmoody Jan 26
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        Before I wrote code I would rant about the inefficiency of this. Two weeks to build your own parse clone to save $10/mo? That’s crazy! Then I learned to code, and discovered why: solving these things is the fun part.

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      2. Veeral Patel‏ @veeralpatel44 Jan 26
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        true! but as a developer writing code myself instead of using an off the shelf solution (1) teaches me things, (2) lets me productively use time I would've otherwise wasted, (3) is fun to do, and (4) lets me build exactly the solution I want

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      3. Veeral Patel‏ @veeralpatel44 Jan 26
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        i agree for a business it's not optimal to have its developers building things themselves instead of spending a little money for something battle-tested. but as a dev the tradeoff makes sense

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      1. Garrett Wollman‏ @garrett_wollman Jan 26
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        Replying to @patio11 @jkuroda

        It can be super fun to "beat" the vendor but if all you do is chase the shifting sands of vendor pricing and product offerings, it's incredibly demoralizing.

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      1. Sean Hood‏ @SeanHood Jan 26
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        Building stuff is fun. Building a case and jumping through all the red tape to get the business to pay for a service, isn’t. More an more things I’d much rather just pay for.

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      1. Richard‏ @king_of_thougts Jan 26
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        It always surprise me when managers encourage this too

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