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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 26 Nov 2019
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      Patrick McKenzie Retweeted Rob Howard

      Tokyo has positive population growth of about 100,000 people a year, and rents and home prices are roughly stable for last decade. How? Outconstructing NYC. And LA. And SF. And Boston. And Houston. Combined. Every year.https://twitter.com/rohoGames/status/1199342598919376898 …

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      LT: @patio11 is an amazing twitter follow. One of the bits of wisdom he espouses is how Tokyo remains affordable for housing despite *explosive population growth* and sky high demand because they simply BUILD TONS MORE HOUSES.
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    2. Hank Yeomans‏ @HankYeomans 26 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @patio11 @SwiftOnSecurity

      If by affordable and growth of housing you mean the tiny coffin sized apartments and houses that won’t work here because people won’t put up with that by and large. Some will and those some I’ll admonish the ones that don’t but they will be outliers non the less.

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 26 Nov 2019
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      Replying to @HankYeomans @SwiftOnSecurity

      The average Tokyo apartment is ~780 square feet, which is a tiny coffin slightly bigger than the average for SF, NYC, Chicago, Washington DC, Tuscon, and LA.

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        2. Hank Yeomans‏ @HankYeomans 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @patio11 @SwiftOnSecurity

          Ok thank you for cleaning that up. My experience is filled with “hey check out these ridiculously tiny places you can live in in Japan” so they put forth a narrative that is wrong and I stand corrected:)

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        3. Nadim Hossain‏ @NadimHossain 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @HankYeomans @patio11 @SwiftOnSecurity

          Kudos to you both on demonstrating respectful fact-based debate :)

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        2. Joerg Schwieder‏ @cooliopenguin 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @patio11 @HankYeomans @SwiftOnSecurity

          How many people live in these apartments, on average, in Tokyo or the US? Is that also the same? Just wondering because that article down the thread says 70m2 is a 3bdr-apt for a family, in Germany that would be quite tiny for 3bdr, it would be more typical for 1-2bdr

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        3. Hank Yeomans‏ @HankYeomans 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @cooliopenguin @patio11 @SwiftOnSecurity

          About 70m2 is way too small for a US 3 bedroom. I personally would consider it too small for a 2 bedroom. With 3 people and 2 dogs. They exist, but because of high prices in some US cities a few people seem to be “ok” with them.

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        2. Hank Yeomans‏ @HankYeomans 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @scottbuscemi

          This is outside the scope of the discussion. We aren’t talking about the homeless or expanding the argument. The original thoughts were around whether it was true or not that Japan had much smaller units or coffins if you will. Thank you.

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        1. Staying at home Stanley‏ @IamStan 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @patio11 @HankYeomans @SwiftOnSecurity

          About the same as my place in London

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        1. Axel‏ @amovingtrain67 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @patio11 @HankYeomans @SwiftOnSecurity

          Living in Boston rn in a 250 square foot studio apartment which costs me 1300 a month. Cheapest "home" someone can find in this city without room mates.

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        2. Jason‏ @FirstRegime 26 Nov 2019
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          Replying to @patio11 @HankYeomans @SwiftOnSecurity

          It seems like you're comparing apples and oranges. The result is that you give the impression that someone in SF wouldn't sacrifice much by adopting the equivalent lifestyle in Tokyo. But I think that's wrong.

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        3. Jason‏ @FirstRegime 26 Nov 2019
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          In Tokyo, most families live in apartments which skews the average higher. In cities like SF, many families are excluded from the average since they live in houses instead of apartments. A better comparison is between the average size of one bedroom apartments in each city.

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