Worth noting that sometimes this is not “We will not tell you.” it is simply “I don’t have that information.” A fair response is: “OK, table that question for the moment, but I’d appreciate you asking your CFO for it. You have my email address; they have those numbers.” https://twitter.com/chrisalbon/status/1188317041737945089 …
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Should they have that information? *sigh* Probably, but some observations about candidates: * many are not savvy about equity * many don’t particularly care (when you say “I always value equity at zero” what is employer’s rational response?) * some of them join Recruiting
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Incidentally, in the case where someone says “I can’t tell you what the equity is worth”, read that like “I can’t negotiate salary”: it’s a negotiating position, and abandonable for any candidate they want to close.
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Replying to @patio11
And, how do you read companies which are upfront that they don't negotiate salaries or compensation during hiring (not refreshes or annual reviews)? And, is that stance even amenable?
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I think that messaged stance is unlikely to be descriptively accurate. Possibly they believe it, and would describe the process by which they’d pay more for a favored candidate to be something other than “negotiation.”
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Right and that process of identifying how they would pay more to be considered a "favored" candidate is what we need to explore, isn't it? Could be showing ability to have higher impact or getting into an agreement on impact based rewards?
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Highly likely to be “You assess my level of impact as X resulting in package Y. Package Y will not get this done. Want to reassess my level of impact to get us to package Z? What would you need from me to do that?”
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“That sure sounds like a negotiation.” It sure does.
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