If an employer is willing to be abusive to you prior to hiring you, when you have maximum leverage and they are maximally incentivized to play nice, I think that gives you *extremely actionable* signal as to how they'll treat you when you're working there and dependent on them.
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Hiring employees is often not one of those contexts. The nature of the relationship, the asymmetry in power, and the social contract strongly counsel you to be a lot better there than you are minimally required by law / contract.
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A thing which aesthetically frustrates me is that a lot of the things I've heard companies do here serve *no legitimate business purpose.* In some cases it's getting tens of dollars of advantage. TENS! On an engineering candidate!
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Imagine the primal scream of a capitalist: "WHY ARE YOU POISONING THE WELL FOR EVERYONE HIRING ENGINEERS OVER TENS OF DOLLARS. DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE IN YOUR S-1 AS A SOURCE OF COMPETITIVE STRENGTH. DOES THIS REFLECT YOUR MANAGERIAL COMPETENCE WITH RESPECT TO YOUR AGENTS."
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for example, an abuse-like pattern I’ve heard from a friend recently: penalizing someone for asking how to value your stock options
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Oh eff *everything* about that.
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I wouldn't call it abuse, but I once interviewed for a company that wouldn't tell me what type of work I would be doing, what the team might be like, etc. and said they'd first have to hire me and determine where I best fit. Like I'm going to accept a job I know nothing about.
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I'll do it. A non-exhaustive list: Making out of town candidates fly in/stay on their own dime Pegging salary to last job even if candidate has offers in hand for more Being late to interviews without apology. Requesting additional interviews the very next day
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Being shifty about bonus/ESOP Not answering questions on revenue/growth or ESOP exercise Exploding offers Radio silence after first/initial interview(s) then suddenly reappearing weeks later
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A one-week exploding offer without a damned good reason, which the company wouldn't extend, is the one that I still remember, nearly a decade on
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What’s generally a good length?
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