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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 12 Jun 2019
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    I've often wondered whether you can disaggregate the goods "drink" and "chair" in some fashion, perhaps by popularizing a ritual like: "Welcome to Starbucks how can I help you?" "I'm buying one for our friends." "Got it, that will be $4.95." SBUX donates a trivial sum.https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1138847956474441728 …

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    Joe Weisenthal @TheStalwart
    What's needed is some sort of public space that fulfill the social purposes that bars serve, but which aren't centered around alcohol, sugar, or caffeine. https://twitter.com/CadieThompson/status/1138846681494163456 …
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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 12 Jun 2019
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        The purpose here isn't "Maximally efficient charitable donation" it is "Create a Schelling point by which Starbucks and I are mutually as happy with me sitting in a chair as if I had ordered a milkshake without requiring me to drink a milkshake."

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 12 Jun 2019
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        I think this is happily consumer-side and producer-side viral, since it solves a real problem for e.g. servers: "Not ready to order yet; waiting for someone." "Got it; can I get you a drink or want one for a friend?"

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      2. Rogs says test everyone‏ @ESRogs 13 Jun 2019
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        What does "I'm buying one for our friends." refer to? This somehow means you're buying a chair and not a drink?

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 13 Jun 2019
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        "I'm buying a drink for our friends [who are not here in this moment to *have* the drink, but I trust you to make sure someone gets to drink as a result of this transaction, perhaps somewhere where it is much more efficient than $4.95 to service that request]."

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      1. keerthik「ひきこもり」o‏ @keerthiko 12 Jun 2019
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        in the days when most people were by-default church-affiliated, the church was an indoor third place -- one didn't have to pay to use it, and others came there, some to do specific things, but many just to socialize.

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      1. Adam Saleh‏ @salehczk 13 Jun 2019
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        Tea-rooms serve this purpose in my city. You could order a 15$ tea, that will be expertly prepared and brought to you. Or you can order 5$ tea, ask for 4 cups and self-service. They will bring you hot water in termos, free refill. By hour 3 the tea was homeopathic :) Nobody mind.

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      1. Dan Megill‏ @DanMegill 12 Jun 2019
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        Coffee is a conversational crutch in other ways. Imagine meeting a stranger but you have nothing to do with your hands, you can't say "you want to try this?" or "how's your drink?", and you can't cover dead air by taking a sip of your drink while thinking of something to say.

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      1. Æ 1 X  🦉‏ @xtremalraven 12 Jun 2019
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        I know some countries where several years back was popular a concept that was called "anticafe": you pay per person per minute you're there (and coffee and some snacks are free); people come to play board games, just meet, that kind of thing.

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      1. Josh Duff‏ @TehShrike 12 Jun 2019
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        What I want to find is: a social activity to occupy the spaces between words. A chess board works for a few people… but beer works for 80+% of random professional acquaintances

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