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Patrick McKenzie

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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Jovis Joseph  👨🏽‍💻‏ @heyitsjovis 23 May 2019
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      "Building a startup is like Someone who jumps off a cliff and builds a plane on the way down" @reidhoffman So here is what i have to ask, how can ethics/being fair be your priority while falling of a cliff? Imo this analogy is normalising the lack ethics in startups cc @paulg

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    2. Paul Graham‏Verified account @paulg 24 May 2019
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      Replying to @heyitsjovis @reidhoffman

      In practice, the additional stress of starting a startup doesn't cause otherwise ethical people to behave unethically.

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    3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 May 2019
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      Replying to @paulg @heyitsjovis @reidhoffman

      It's curious that substantially no one worries that someone's ethics will necessarily slide while getting married, having kids, doing a medical residency, or competing in elite sporting events, but it is widely believed that startup stress possesses some unique corrupting factor.

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 May 2019
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      "Congrats on having a child! Just don't feed them sawdust." "What." "Well having a child is stressful." "That is true but..." "And stress leads you to cut corners." "I would not cut that corner." "Stress also leads you to lie about it. So, no sawdust. I'm watching."

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        1. L Farewell‏ @FarewellLucas 24 May 2019
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          Without regulation commerce is effective at rewarding unscrupulous behavior beyond the "relief" of reducing stress - "move fast and break things" is also not a popularized pillar of child rearing/marriage and unconditional love is not a central ethic of entrepreneurship

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        1. Adam Fields‏ @fields 24 May 2019
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          And then there’s this kid.pic.twitter.com/y7ywJwOX32

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        1. Blaise Alleyne‏ @balleyne 24 May 2019
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          I don't think people assume it's merely extreme stress that causes people to cut ethical corners, but perhaps time pressure stress plus a profit motive in the startup context? Still, skepticism of that seems warranted

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        1. Justin Blank‏ @hyperpape 24 May 2019
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          Better analogy: "congratulations on having a kid, don't bribe the Ivy Leagues to get them in". Feeding your kid sawdust is bad for the kid that you're motivated to help. Cheating in your startup is a risky play but people mostly do it because they think it'll help their startup.

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        2. Zach Alberico‏ @zachalberico 24 May 2019
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          I think the ethics do slide, just in favor of the child. “Yes I shouldn’t be working to build FR tech to suppress minorities, but I have a child to feed and take care of”. It’s what ethics are sacrificed to keep the startup going (see: Theranos, Fyre festival).

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        3. Zach Alberico‏ @zachalberico 24 May 2019
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          Some subset of people will rationalize and do terrible things just so they don’t lose their job.

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