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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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      Always excited to see new takes on developer tooling. https://conveyor.com/  , from my buddies at Wildbit, is an interesting one; it situates the deeply technical git integration in the social reality of a software team rather than bolting the software team onto Git hosting.

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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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      The longer I work at a highly-productive software company with hundreds of people the more I feel that flat textfiles are not merely not the right abstraction to reason about software, they're merely epiphenomena of a social process which happen to be machine readable.

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    3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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      But there are a lot of things which are machine readable, like say binaries, which you would in most cases not want humans to be reasoning over. And I'm getting to the point where I think source code is not the thing to reason about, not really.

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    4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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      But because our source code is the one part of the puzzle that we have relatively developed tooling for, reason about the source code we do, heedless of the iceberg beneath it that we have an impoverished ability to reason about and which we lack a vocabulary to describe.

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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      Another micro-heresy: I don't think people hate JIRA because JIRA is bad software. I think people hate JIRA because JIRA is fundamentally the wrong abstraction for The Work but because it's the most developed non-code abstraction The Work happens in it.

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        2. Max Tagher‏ @MaxTagher 27 Feb 2019
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          Typo in this? “I think people hate JIRA because [X] but because [Y]”. Meant to be “not because [X]”?

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        3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 27 Feb 2019
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          Not a typo, but the tweet was a little hard to parse.

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        1. Paul Roales‏ @PaulRoales 27 Feb 2019
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          People hate JIRA because they have some awful project manager running it

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        2.  🚲 🚎 🥑‏ @crzwdjk 27 Feb 2019
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          That doesn't seem like a very controversial take. The problem with JIRA is that it doesn't match the workflow that people want, and that it gives too much opportunity to bureaucrats who love to play with increasingly elaborate bureaucracy.

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        3. Daniel HB‏ @DanielHoffmann_ 28 Feb 2019
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          Agreed, some people just have a fetish for making very strict and complex Jira workflows

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        1. Natalie Nagele‏ @natalienagele 27 Feb 2019
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          You, my friend, have incredible way to communicate what we all feel ❤️

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        2. thomas vladeck‏ @tvladeck 27 Feb 2019
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          How does stripe organize The Work? What is the right abstraction?

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        3. thomas vladeck‏ @tvladeck 27 Feb 2019
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          (I ask as the leader of a consulting firm that does quite a bit of statistical coding. So we are a mix of a software shop and traditional consulting — and we're obsessed about making The Work as frictionless as possible)

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        1. Æ 1 X  🦉‏ @xtremalraven 27 Feb 2019
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          No, yeah, I've seen good task trackers, JIRA is definitely bad software.

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        1. Daniel HB‏ @DanielHoffmann_ 28 Feb 2019
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          A great deal of my frustration comes from how slow Jira is. Not that it is TOO slow, more like it is is slow enough to be noticeable, but fast enough that I don't feel like throwing my computer out of the window.

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