“Engineers don’t do ethics courses and this is why Silicon Valley...” is a classist slur designed to reallocate social status between engineers and virtuous paragons like journalists, MBAs, legislators, health insurance executives, lawyers, and others who take ethics classes.
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Here's the simple answer, obvious to everyone that lives in America but grew up in the developed world; American primary education is archaic and narrow-minded. Ethics and tolerance are taught at an early age not as some after thought at college.
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The comp ranges for engineers versus folks in ops, policy and comms inside these companies says the opposite about their relative class position.
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(a) people are saying Engrs need training in ethics (b) math, sci, CS are great vectors for social & $ mobility since the skills are measurable So, can eng programs add high-quality ethics courses without also requiring students to jump through relationship-based hoops?
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discrimination based on whether somebody attended a class is literally classism Lolol
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Seeing a person as only a member of their class is objectification
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I took ethics classes as part of my degree (engineering) and later I was a stamping professional engineer. A single ethics class at 19-20 years of age isn't some magic bullet to assuring a moral compass.
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Heh. Yeah I went to an Ivy undergrad and they bragged and bragged about DAT BROADMINDED LIBERAL ARTS RIGOR of the core curriculum at orientation and throughout the experience
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When discussing ethics in journalism school, classmates often told me that I "just didn't get it yet" whenever I disagreed -- because I'd only been in the US for a few months. ~8 years in, it continues to happen whenever I point out inconsistencies in stated ethical frameworks.
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There are mandatory ethics classes for engineers in Québec (and probably for the RoC too), but they are useless. They were about old bridges that fell, and only presented clear cut obvious situations. No contemporary problems nor any real dilemmas.
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Did Les Moonves have an engineering degree?
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