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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Ryan Castellucci  🏠‏ @ryancdotorg 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @dinodaizovi @dakami @pedramamini

      I'd prefer "there is already a word for people who use computers to commit crimes: 'criminals'". Most of the people that do stuff like run phishing campaigns aren't hackers of any sort.

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    2. Dino A. Dai Zovi‏ @dinodaizovi 24 Nov 2018
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      That makes even more sense. As time goes on, more and more crimes involve computers of some sort because more and more aspects of life do. Nothing magical about a computer being involved in the crime.

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    3. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @dinodaizovi @ryancdotorg @pedramamini

      What I’ve heard from LE is that basically all crime has a tech component now. All of it.

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    4. Matthew Green‏ @matthew_d_green 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @dakami @dinodaizovi and

      I would love to see a group of criminals sending typed memos and having their secretaries place calls, like in Mad Men.

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    5. Ryan Castellucci  🏠‏ @ryancdotorg 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @matthew_d_green @dakami and

      I'd rather see them doing scrum sessions and assigning JIRA tickets, mainly for that sweet, sweet schadenfreude. Also user stories for botnets.

      3 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    6. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 Nov 2018
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      I will bet actual money that certain echelons of computer fraud are professionalized enough to have payroll, quarterly targets, performance reviews, career paths, and the other accoutrements of relatively well managed software companies.

      2 replies 1 retweet 7 likes
    7. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @patio11 @ryancdotorg and

      “The adversary has a boss and a budget” is not just a metaphor, it is a literal description of reality. Teenagers doing retail scale cashing for the lulz also exist but they’re very much not the entirety of the ecosystem of evil.

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    8. Ryan Castellucci  🏠‏ @ryancdotorg 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @patio11 @matthew_d_green and

      Was "cashing" meant to be "carding" here?

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    9. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @ryancdotorg @matthew_d_green and

      Oh I meant cashing here, but carding is equally true.

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    10. Ryan Castellucci  🏠‏ @ryancdotorg 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @patio11 @matthew_d_green and

      What do you mean by "cashing"? Cloning debit cards and cleaning out the accounts via ATM?

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @ryancdotorg @matthew_d_green and

      There are a bunch of ways to do it, but broadly “You’re the interface in the funds flow diagram between criminals and civil society.” Under appreciated by cashers but there is a reason the sophisticated folks don’t want to show up on camera or have things shipped to them etc.

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        1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 24 Nov 2018
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          Because this is excessively opaque to people following us and not exactly a secret: purchase a stolen credit card via e.g. Bitcoin, use it to buy very nice sneakers, sell nice sneakers to friend at high school for 20% off retail, end up with several hundred dollars hard USD.

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