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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on Atlas. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 23 Oct 2018

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    A company found that listing high school lacrosse on one's resume correlates with high performance evaluations and therefore killed the project. One wonders what the expected happy don't-kill-the-project version of that analysis would have been. https://twitter.com/davegershgorn/status/1054357855678144514 …

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      1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 23 Oct 2018

        "We took a data source which is basically known to be bullshit and then correlated it with another data source which we consider to be highly suspect with regards to fairness, on a naive bayesian model. We were sort of hoping this analysis would find nothing interesting." ?

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      2. Conversion Rate Guy‏ @ClayNichols 23 Oct 2018
        Replying to @patio11

        I'm not following this. Are you saying they cancelled the project because they thought the ppl on the project would do an excellent job? So the project was never intended to succeed? (that doesn't surprise me but wanted to confirm)

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 23 Oct 2018
        Replying to @ClayNichols

        I think my surprise is that, given the reason for canceling the project, there's basically no version of that project that can be successful, and indeed it's difficult to think of what success would look like for it even absent that reasoning.

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      2. Colin Percival‏ @cperciva 23 Oct 2018
        Replying to @patio11

        Possibly "people who get frequent promotions tend to also have high performance evaluations". Rather than "resumes have zero predictive value", my takeaway from this story is "some people don't know how to properly discount the p-values of small-subset signals".

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      3. Colin Percival‏ @cperciva 23 Oct 2018
        Replying to @cperciva @patio11

        In my experience, "works at Stripe and is named Patrick" is a very strong indicator of awesomeness, but I would give it a very low weight in a predictive model because anything based on an N=2 sample needs a low weight.

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      1. Wes Winham‏ @weswinham 23 Oct 2018
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        Companies will keep learning this lesson: Resumes have nearly zero actual signal. ML isn't magic. It can't squeeze blood from a stone.

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