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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 6 Oct 2018
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      Patrick McKenzie Retweeted Mason  💦 👏 +  😷 +  🏃‍♂️ ✂️

      A thing I have often thought about is how everyone professes to love education and says universities are good at it but if I told my friends or family that I'm taking 4 years to do another undergrad degree (at age 36) for personal enrichment they'd question my sanity.https://twitter.com/webdevMason/status/1048193848554348545 …

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      Can't help but see a connection to the ultimate marketing success story (I refrain from "scam," but w/ trepidation): the idea that every single young adult in the country, regardless of aptitude, interests, or plans, should attend a 4-year college. (Eat your heart out, De Beers.)
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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 6 Oct 2018
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      "Wait you'd spend $160k and 4 years of your life just to listen to a bored professor drone in front of a room full of idiots who are generally either absent or hungover?" "Yeah, that does seem odd. Remind me why I did it the first time? Was it much cheaper or shorter? I forget."

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        2. Vanessa Harris  🐾‏ @technologypoet 6 Oct 2018
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          The education is not in the lectures, it’s in the environment of self discovery and nurturing of curiosity.

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        3. Michele Hansen‏ @mjwhansen 6 Oct 2018
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          And in meeting people who are passionate about similar topics, and collaborating with one another (in school and after). The concentration and connection of domain-specific talent is maybe the most valuable parts of college.

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        1. Andrew Hill‏ @ahontwi 6 Oct 2018
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          Higher marginal utility for the first degree

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        2. Oluseyi Sonaiya‏ @OluseyiSonaiya 6 Oct 2018
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          You were younger, and your time was cheaper.

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        3. Oluseyi Sonaiya‏ @OluseyiSonaiya 6 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @OluseyiSonaiya @patio11

          Some days I question taking one year of my life (and still $160k, mysteriously) to get an MBA.

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        1. Adam Smith‏ @LaissezWhere 6 Oct 2018
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          My theory of the value of (good) undergrad is a lot of what you learn is how to learn, plus lotd of social skills/growing up, plus White Collar acculturation, plus gain a network. All of those have higher utility at 18 than 36.

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        1. jbowles‏ @jbowayles 6 Oct 2018
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          ran into that even while in school... even from other students. My response, always was and still is: you get out of it what you put in... and often reflects on disposition of professor

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        1. David Ballif‏ @David_Ballif 6 Oct 2018
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          Another option would be a top-flight master's program for mid-career types.

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        1. James Hollingshead‏ @bladesjester 6 Oct 2018
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          In my case it was massively cheaper (though it did take me more than 4 years because sometimes life happens). I think tuition was about $2k/quarter when I graduated

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