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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 19 Sep 2018
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    A tip for receiving compliments, specific to American business culture: “Thank you.” “Thanks; that made my day.” “Thanks; it is always great to know the work matters to people.” are all probably better socially adjusted than deflecting compliments. Just macro your favorite.

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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 19 Sep 2018
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        I grew up in a social milieu which expects self-effacing behavior and I know many other folks who are socialized similarly. This is not generally rewarded in the American professional sphere.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 19 Sep 2018
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        If someone says “Thank you. Your work was key to shipping $X.” and you say “Oh I don’t deserve that! Many people worked on $X.” you have just stapled “WAS NOT KEY CONTRIBUTOR ON $X” to their memory of your performance.

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      4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 19 Sep 2018
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        There exist cultures where “Oh, I barely worked on $X at all.” will be read as “Yeah you’d best believe the company would be ^{*{#ed right now but I stepped up.” (Ahh, salaryman chess, how I enjoy you so.) US workplaces generally are not one of them.

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      2. Ryan Clark‏ @RyanGClark 19 Sep 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        This was great. I’d love to hear the Japanese counterparts, particularly because I imagine they’d be an excellent illustration of the contrast you mention among some cultures.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 19 Sep 2018
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        「とんでもございません。」(Tonde mo gozaimasen.) is my macroed response to any compliment in Japanese which is not about my children, where I am straight up unwilling to make the socially mandatory response. It doesn't translate well because it is a ritual phrase.

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      2. Saul Lieberman‏ @Saul_Lieberman 20 Sep 2018
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        I look at it this way: Somebody took the effort to notice/ compliment/ thank. Don't take that away from them.

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      3. Muhammad Azeez‏ @mhmd_azeez 20 Sep 2018
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        Replying to @Saul_Lieberman @patio11

        So how do you respond?

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      1. Andrew Shindyapin‏ @ph0rque 19 Sep 2018
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        Yeah, "I am an unworthy servant; I have only done what was my duty" (Luke 17:10) doesn't go over well in the American business culture. 😕

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      1. Tumbleweed Tornado‏ @b11c 19 Sep 2018
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      1. edunhome‏ @QEDunham 19 Sep 2018
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        I programmed myself to automatically reply "thank you" to all compliments and things that vaguely resemble them... and then much later realized that ending the conversation at "thank you" is the opposite of the conversation-starter goal for which most people use compliments.

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