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Patrick McKenzie

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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    1. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 4 Sep 2018
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      If I have to pick just one, the dumbest thing Hacker News believes about security is that phishing is a simplistic attack that only unsophisticated users fall for.

      19 replies 70 retweets 445 likes
    2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 4 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @tqbf

      this should be a game mode, like Starfighter. I'd like for someone to try to phish me. I regularly delete email from close relatives without reading it ;)

      4 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
    3. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 4 Sep 2018
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      that said, I agree that once Mossad-level state agents decide you are a valid target, it's not going to end well no matter your background

      1 reply 0 retweets 20 likes
    4. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 4 Sep 2018
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      This is an attack teenagers can pull off successfully.

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    5. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 4 Sep 2018
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      What I'm implying is the fallacy "they'd never get me", which I also believe to be true. But I also understand I'm a totally unrepresentative superfreak, unlike the people on HN ;)

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Kevin Riggle‏ @kevinriggle 4 Sep 2018
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      At Stripe @tetrakazi regularly phished people on the security team *WHO KNEW THE CAMPAIGN WAS COMING*

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    7. Sam Quigley‏ @emerose 4 Sep 2018
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      To be fair, if your threat model includes @tetrakazi you probably didn’t have a chance anyway

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      Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 4 Sep 2018
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      Very glad to be on same side of fence as Karla, but “Security decided by relative access to geniuses” is an actively harmful belief. She successfully demonstrated that anyone sending marketing email professionally could own up very sophisticated targets. No. Magic. Required.

      7:40 PM - 4 Sep 2018
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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror 4 Sep 2018
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          Replying to @patio11 @emerose and

          Still waiting for someone to target me. I dare anyone reading this: try to phish me! (I believe strongly in the Starfighter model of "make it a game to learn more", even though that business sadly failed)

          1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
        3. Thomas H. Ptacek‏ @tqbf 4 Sep 2018
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          I think you know this works on everyone and you just think it would be fun to see it done to you and you’re trying to get a strong phishing assessment for free. I’m on to you.

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        2. Jeff Atwood‏Verified account @codinghorror Feb 26
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          I'm still waiting to see this work against hardware 2FA though? I mean back in the dark ages of 2017 and 2018 things were a bit different, weren't they? 😉

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        3. Brad Shuttleworth‏ @shuttlebrad Feb 26
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          FIDO2 works, but basic 2FA doesn’t. Phishers can dynamically include 2FA steps if needed.

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