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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Aug 2018
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    Two joys of the Japanese language: “Naruhodo.” For when you’ve just been told something which is new information to you but which is not surprising. “Hee” (Sounds like “hay”) For when you have been told something which is surprising. Stretch the vowel to indicate more surprise.

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    • Andrei says: The Flex Capacitor Michal M Anirudh Surendranath hackermatic Atrash Aman adypermana DiscoAudio TO33IE
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      1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Aug 2018
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        (Obviously not an exhaustive description of ways to use either of those two words. Consider e.g. the phrase "I see." in English; there is clearly a way to use it to imply "You are an idiot; who invited you to this meeting?" but people rarely say "Wow English; so nuanced.")

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      2. Karen E. Robinson‏ @kerobinso 14 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        I say "indeed" a lot in English because I miss "naruhodo" (なるほど) so much.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @kerobinso

        I do this, too, but I'm not entirely certain whether I'm experiencing third-language interference or a subconscious desire to sound more like Omar from The Wire.

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      1. thaddeus e. grugq‏ @thegrugq 16 Aug 2018
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        Thai has a really large number of extremely nuanced ways to express annoyance. Maybe it’s just the ppl I learned it from...

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      2. Froward Jason‏ @JasnTru 14 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        I still have the "Hee button" app on my phone, an old gimmicky app that counts how many times you press the button, while it makes that sound. Inspired by a TV show IIRC. Samsung's migration wizard helpfully told me that there was a version for Android when I switched from iPhone

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      1. Shubham Chandel‏ @sksq96 14 Aug 2018
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        The "Hay" along with the stretching, is exactly how it's expressed in Hindi too. That's interesting!

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      2. Daniel Baird‏ @danieljbaird 15 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        "Heee" as a kind of aizuchi starts to annoy the hell out of me after a while. Too many people over use it.

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      3. philsnow‏ @saltandcayenne 15 Aug 2018
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        I had never heard the term aizuchi or, in turn, "phatic" expressions, both great words. Thank you for teaching me something today.

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      1. David Jarvis‏ @Venantius 15 Aug 2018
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        I’ve always interpreted naruhodo to functionally mean “is that so?”

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