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I work for the Internet, at @stripe, mostly on accelerating startups. Opinions here are my own.

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    Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Jun 2018
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    Patrick McKenzie Retweeted Thomas H. Ptacek

    Rescuing this from deep in a thread to say that this is also a thing that I see with a fair bit of frequency, often to people who are flabbergasted. Even if you don't live in SFBA your thinking about offers should be informed by SFBA companies paying ~90% of local for remote.https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/1007485373843468293 …

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    Thomas H. Ptacek @tqbf
    Replying to @tqbf @codinghorror and 3 others
    Another thing I am starting to see on the regular: SFBA salary scale for remote workers in Illinois and New York.
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      2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Jun 2018
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        The modal way I hear about this is engineer in one of the US analogues of Ogaki reads my article on salary negotiation, takes a whack at applying to a SFBA startup, successfully avoids revealing that their salary is $65k, and nearly falls out of chair when the company says $140k.

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      3. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 14 Jun 2018
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        (That conversation generally doesn't *end* at e.g. $140k, because who leads with their maximum offer.)

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      2. Colin Percival‏ @cperciva 15 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        How does that work when companies have offices in other cities w/ large pay differentials? Does someone in Illinois who is "working remotely, attached to SFBA office" get paid far more than someone who in Illinois and working at the Illinois office?

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      3. Klynton Jessup‏ @klyntonj 15 Jun 2018
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        In my experience, the remote person attached to SFBA company makes A LOT more than the person in the Illinois office.

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      1. Aniket Kadam‏ @AniketSMK 14 Jun 2018
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        You could do a lot of good naming companies that are hiring and also not trying to drive down engineering salaries by tricking the naive. Open ones like Buffer?

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      1. Kamil Choudhury‏ @kchoudhu 15 Jun 2018
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        Replying to @patio11

        Not surprised about the NY equivalence? It's a more expensive city than SF.

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