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David Owens II
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@owensd

I'm a builder of things. I like to challenge the norms. Technology lover.

Joined January 2009
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    David Owens II ‏@owensd 17 Jun 2015

    My biggest concern from POP talk: replacing unintended data sharing with unintended side-effects through extensions. Feels like code smell.

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    • codester Radek Pietruszewski
    12:39 AM - 17 Jun 2015
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      1. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

        @owensd We try to mitigate that a few ways. Protocol exts can't dynamically change behavior of already compiled code, unlike ObjC extensions

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      2. David Owens II ‏@owensd 17 Jun 2015

        @jckarter what about frameworks in your workspace? Does an extension in proj A cause B and C to recompile?

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      4. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

        @owensd It conservatively has to now because we don't have a stable ABI. The visibility of extensions can be constrained though.

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      5. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

        @owensd A can extend types for its own purposes without exporting those extensions to B and C.

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      6. David Owens II ‏@owensd 17 Jun 2015

        @jckarter hmm... so prot P and type T defined in fmk A, extended in fmk B. Those extensions only called when T is used as signature, not P.

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      7. David Owens II ‏@owensd 17 Jun 2015

        @jckarter here's a gist with a proper example: https://gist.github.com/owensd/6ceb5b8ec2bd5b43d85b ….

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      9. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

        @owensd Alternately, if the tests module were imported into the main module, it would be able to see circleAt as well.

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      10. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

        @owensd We'll likely introduce warnings/errors to make these shadowing situations more apparent.

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    1. Joe Groff ‏@jckarter 17 Jun 2015

      @owensd Method resolution favors more specific contexts, so if your methods must not be replaced, define them in your type and they can't.

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    2. John Daniel ‏@etresoft 17 Jun 2015

      @owensd Trying to overlook the ageism in the POP talk. Being Crusty, I remember C++ templates and hope Swift will succeed where they failed.

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    3. Steve Trewick ‏@SteveTrewick 17 Jun 2015

      @owensd Now my class owns a whole bunch of methods that are defined outside its lexical scope! Awesome with caveats.

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