for example there is a noam chomsky quote about not wanting your people to be milked like a cow by foreign investors. that could be a “right wing nationalist” or it could be a very particular type of “left wing” person, not using left wing the in modern colloquial sense. very odd
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my current model for understanding this is that if your political movement involves grouping people based on “peoplehood”, i.e the french people, the korean people, peoplehood in that sense, then that is more of a “right wing” model. but [...]
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if your political model involves grouping people primarily by class then you would be somewhere on the left. the strange thing is that this seems somewhat provisional (somewhat) as wealth disparity and peoplehood vary in terms of being pressing issues depending on many factors.
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so for example if i was tibetan, obviously i would want to see rich tibetans and poor tibetans as on the same team because of the national situation so, if i was a nationalist i would be “right wing”. [...]
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but then if i was chinese maybe the ethnicity is less of a pressing political factor compared to the extreme wealth disparity and i would be some... type of left wing person? its actually all very confusing and i feel like no model really explains it. whats the deal.
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you are looking for the hidden Z-axis in the political compass. It's called nativist-axis. Or with the poles of "globalism" and "nationalism". The real redpill here, is that there is even a hidden t-axis which is denoted as time. The arrow of time is ruthless.
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i was going to say clearly the z axis is some type of nativism.
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The political x-y axis is a false hegelian dichotomy imposed onto our minds to control us. It must be rejected. if Truth is to be recognized.
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Any spectrum with more than one dimension is too complex to be used for team formation and strong rhetoric. But you need at least two, probably more to accurately describe existing philosophies. Therefore an accurate model will never be popular and vice versa.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer … I also think the question “Is society fundamentally broken/evil?” creates a horseshoe effect, in that if you say yes you are comfortable smashing core pillars holding it up.
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