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    1.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      Great. Number 429. Show me where Jesus said he was talking about the literal temple building in Jerusalem as the false witnesses claimed. Number 96. Show me where the Bible requires gentiles to be circumcised in order to be saved.

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    2. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
      Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

      96 doesn't mention being saved. It says basically that the Bible claims circumcision is both required and not required, i.e., a contradiction. Once you click the link, it shows the citation. Are you unable to use the site? I've screenshot one short example for you just in case..pic.twitter.com/yoke5Ycnhw

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    3.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      Required for what?

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    4. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
      Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

      Not relevant, the Bible clearly states that circumcision is both required and not required (multiple times in different parts). This is simply and observably a contradiction and it's but one of literally hundreds.

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    5.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      K. Well you clearly have no biblical knowledge...I’ll make it easier for you. Where does the Bible ever claim a non-Hebrew is required to have a circumcision?

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    6. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
      Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

      I studied the Bible. Your question regarding 'non-Hebrew' is not relevant. Read, Genesis 17:7-19 / Leviticus 12:3 / Acts 16:3 then look at the directly opposing statements in Galatians 5:2 / Colossians 2:10-11..... BTW: Hebrew is referenced in Acts 16:3 only.

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    7.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      No you haven’t. Please show where the Bible requires gentiles to be circumcised.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
      Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

      The fact that you say I haven't studied the Bible is purely an assumption about me and therefore irrelevant. I've already addressed your tweet above. Please read it again, also explain how the above Biblical references are not a blatantly direct contradiction. I bet you can't.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    9.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      It’s funny, the first time I saw this site I went through every single one. I like these two because they highlight the error in all of them. Either taking the text literally (just like the Pharisees in image one) or lacking even a basic understanding of Christianity(image2)pic.twitter.com/iSgcsTzVAM

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    10. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
      Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

      That neither proves nor disproves anything, doesn't further your point and furthermore drifts from the argument that the Bible is self-contradictory. So, can you or can't you explain how the passages I cited above do not contradict each other?

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       🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
      Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

      Both cited “contradictions” are clearly refuted. The false accusers at the trial before the Sanhedrin recorded in Matt/Luke were repeating what the Pharisees claimed and refuted in John, the literal temple. Circumcision was never required of gentiles under the New covenant, ever.

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        2. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
          Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

          If they're clearly refuted, then why have you so far been unable to refute them (and we're discussing just one of literally hundreds of contradictions). BTW: You can't use the Bible to validate accuracy of the Bible!

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        3.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
          Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

          Yet you can use it to verify the inaccuracies!! Ahahahahhahahah You lose.

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        4. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
          Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

          I (or anyone) can use the Bible to verify the clear self-contradictions in the Bible. That's just logic Tim and it's impossible for you (or anyone) to refute. You haven't answered any question, stayed on point or debunked anything, but yeah, I lose 😜You're not very good at this.

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        5. john edser‏ @intelligent50 Oct 9
          Replying to @majwal7 @orna_verum and

          If somebody claims something is both black and white that doesn't mean it's grey IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL. The non definitive contrary to both white & black is grey which only non verifies (is a zero observation) of both.

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        6. john edser‏ @intelligent50 Oct 9
          Replying to @intelligent50 @majwal7 and

          pic.twitter.com/OYpRM7yaNF

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        7. The Oath‏ @TheOath Oct 9
          Replying to @intelligent50 @majwal7 and

          Absurd.pic.twitter.com/btZSmLiqRQ

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        8. Dominic Roy Accampo‏ @DAccampoFamily Oct 9
          Replying to @TheOath @intelligent50 and

          Is it absurd to realize that too many atheists have never argued from facts nor logic but only from their own rage as they mock & insult and think they have won purely on the basis that we cannot prove a God who is bigger than the entire Universe.pic.twitter.com/s3tGm9yXQM

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        9. john edser‏ @intelligent50 Oct 9
          Replying to @DAccampoFamily @TheOath and

          Just crap! For the 1000th time: just to remain self consistent to creationism a God has to be created by an even greater God to infinity. This is called an inductive infinite regress (IIR). It requires infinite information (an Omni) so it has no solution. @rdfs @RichardDawkins

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        2. john edser‏ @intelligent50 Oct 9
          Replying to @orna_verum @majwal7 and

          The Muslims attempt the #GetOut where, if earlier verses are contradicted by later versions only the later verses stand. My bank manager once tried that one on with my bank statements...without even wincing.. Self consistency cannot be sacrificed on the alter of belief.

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        3.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
          Replying to @intelligent50 @majwal7 and

          Sucks for you. Unfortunately, the site claims the Bible and didn’t differentiate between OT and NT. (Because whoever put it together has the knowledge of a four year old).

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 9
          Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

          And yet, you haven't managed to debunk even one of it's hundreds of citations.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5.  🌓Timothy 🌗‏ @orna_verum Oct 9
          Replying to @majwal7 @intelligent50 and

          😂 you didn’t even try to refute the temple one. You just ignored it entirely.

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        6. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 10
          Replying to @orna_verum @intelligent50 and

          Why do you need me to show you screenshots from the site or look up Bible passages for you. Are you unable to do that yourself? Anyway, show me how the Bible doesn't contradict itself. So far, you have been unable to do that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Epigenetics‏ @TakeThatEpi Oct 10
          Replying to @majwal7 @orna_verum and

          Just a heads up. Tim will evade and obfuscate and finally retreat into "you're just imposing a philosophical slant on things" He really finds it hard to debate honestly. I think he got hurt in a previous thread and still carries the psychological scars

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        8. Mark Wall‏ @majwal7 Oct 10
          Replying to @TakeThatEpi @orna_verum and

          Yeah, I noticed that he's unable to; (a) answer questions (b) provide verifiable facts (c) stick to the point His debating skills amount to saying "I win" and random points in the debate. The 'pigeon playing chess' analogy comes to mind ;)

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