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Neurodiverse trans geek girl. Yosys, RISC-V, SAT/SMT.

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    1. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      I used to have a formally verified correct RISC-V core. With the release of v2.3 it will be out of spec. What happened to no backwards incompatible changes after v2.0? What happened to spike is the executable golden reference? It's all lies..

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    2. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      Rocket of course used to be out of spec up to and including v2.2 of the spec. Starting with v2.3 rocket will magically be in spec and every other implementation that did it correct before will suddenly be in violation of the spec. Nothing matters.

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    3. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      For what it's worth:https://groups.google.com/a/groups.riscv.org/forum/#!topic/isa-dev/oT1r-owKicY …

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    4. Bruce Hoult‏ @BruceHoult 4 May 2018
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      Just a side issue: I believe you have “no incompatible changes” backwards. The goal is for old software to work on new CPUs, not for old CPUs to run new software. Reserved opcodes are always intended to be able to be used in later specs, not illegal forever.

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    5. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      What you mean is for new extensions. E.g. RV32I code should run on an RV32IM machine. But within an extension backward compatibility goes both ways. If I make a RV32I core now it should be able to execute RV32I code generated by a compiler 10 years from now.

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    6. Bruce Hoult‏ @BruceHoult 4 May 2018
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      I don’t think that’s true. v3 RV32I can include opcodes not present in v2 RV32I. You’ll need to tell your future compiler to restrict itself to v2 opcodes.

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    7. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      A jump from v2 to v3 may do that. That's because RV32I2 and RV32I3 are different ISAs, thus have different ISA subset names. But 2.2 and 2.3 are both RV32I2 and they may only differ in resolving ambiguities and holes. That is the promise given by the foundation to implementers.

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    8. Bruce Hoult‏ @BruceHoult 4 May 2018
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      Maybe, though I haven’t seen that written anywhere.

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    9. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      It's literally on the first page of the spec. :)pic.twitter.com/sl9AQ2Wwp2

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    10. Bruce Hoult‏ @BruceHoult 4 May 2018
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      There are a very small number of RISC-V cores in the wild. They are either FPGA (malleable), deeply embedded (code will never change), or SiFive. The impact of even an incompatible change right now would be small. Not so in a year or two.

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      Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 4 May 2018
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      The whole reason for freezing the ISA is to encourage more implementations. Making changes to the frozen ISA is counterproductive. Especially if it is such a pretty thing.

      4:12 PM - 4 May 2018
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        1. Bruce Hoult‏ @BruceHoult 4 May 2018
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          I totally agree. And working around some minor imperfection in the spec is better than having incompatible versions.

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