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    1. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 15 Feb 2018
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      New C++ papers available ➡️ http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/2018-02-pre-Jacksonville.htm … What'll make it to C+20? 😯

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    2. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 15 Feb 2018
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      I'm especially looking forward to "Signed Integers are Two’s Complement" for C++20. I know it'll be controversial 😬 http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2018/p0907r0.html …pic.twitter.com/pJSwUTStyk

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    3. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 20 Feb 2018
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      While we're at it, should C++ also specify:

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    4. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 15 Mar 2018
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      I just presented “signed integers are two’s complement” http://wg21.link/p0907r0  to a joint session of C++ numerics and undefined behavior groups! Broad support, but they want to keep UB on overflow (and have separate type or operator for wrap). I’ll update the paper 📝

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    5. Andres Freund (Tech)‏ @AndresFreundTec 15 Mar 2018
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      What's the reasoning behind wanting to keep UB on overflow? Better optimization?

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    6. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 15 Mar 2018
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      Multiple. Look for details in the updated paper.

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    7. e. tadeu‏ @etadeu 15 Mar 2018
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      Looking forward for the updated paper... can't think on one reason to keep UB and not assume two's complement everywhere. If someone really needs a different behavior, why not create a different type for *that*? (like a `weird_int`)

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      Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 15 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @etadeu @jfbastien @AndresFreundTec

      There are three main reasons imo: optimization, optimization, and optimization. ;) Overflow UB allows compilers to use larger integer registers with simpler code. Quite common for eg 32 bit arithmetic on x86_64.

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        2. e. tadeu‏ @etadeu 15 Mar 2018
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          Does the optimization really pay for the error-proneness in this case? Unsigned overflow is already well-defined, so it's inconsistent to have UB for signed. There are a lot of intentional overflow out there, waiting to be broken because of these UB-dependent optimizations.

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        3. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 16 Mar 2018
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          That's why you should use unsigned integers when you need wrap around overflow behavior. Is the better performance worth the complications? Idk.. depends on what you are doing. But I have seen 10-20% improvements in performance critical code just from changing uint to int.

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        1. JF Bastien‏ @jfbastien 15 Mar 2018
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          Differentiate pointer overflow (which I don’t touch) from missing optimizations on integers (which I touch).

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