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Claire Xen 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM 🏴🚩
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    1. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 15 Jul 2017
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      I don't think @efabless is ready to announce prices yet.. But the whole idea is that it's affordable. (Yes, they aren't the foundry.)

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    2. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 15 Jul 2017
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      I vaguely remember prices for europractice MPW in large process nodes. They are absolutely within reach for hobby stuff.

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    3. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 15 Jul 2017
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      Oh, europractice actually has their price lists online. No login required: http://www.europractice-ic.com/general_runschedule.php …

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    4. R. Ou‏ @rqou_ 15 Jul 2017
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      Oh yeah, @azonenberg told me about that. Still too expensive to regularly make frivolous designs unlike e.g. PCBs

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    5. OSS FPGA & ASIC EDA tools‏ @ico_TC 15 Jul 2017
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      I am working on that. A set of 10 custom chips should cost the same as a set of 8 layer PCB. So you could run wild with your ideas.

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    6. 天 Oğuz Meteer 天‏ @BitlogIT 15 Jul 2017
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      Wait, those prices are in Euros? Some of them are pretty cheap (compared spending millions to billions) 😮

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    7. OSS FPGA & ASIC EDA tools‏ @ico_TC 15 Jul 2017
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      To get about 50 chips from a multi project wafer, you need to pay between 8000 and 20000 Euro, depending on node and size of your chip.

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    8. OSS FPGA & ASIC EDA tools‏ @ico_TC 15 Jul 2017
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      This is what IP design companies do to get a "silicon proven" for their IP design. They usually do it several times until the silicon works.

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    9. 天 Oğuz Meteer 天‏ @BitlogIT 16 Jul 2017
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      The cheapest one I saw was 300 Euros. I'm no expert on chip design, so I don't know if that node is suitable for a mcu, but it's still cheap

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    10. OSS FPGA & ASIC EDA tools‏ @ico_TC 16 Jul 2017
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      It might be 300 Euro per mm². But there might be a minimum order of 25mm².

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      Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 16 Jul 2017
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      Minimum order size for ON Semi 0.7µ is 5 mm². But one can also do multi project chips and share that cost.

      5:31 AM - 16 Jul 2017
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        2. 天 Oğuz Meteer 天‏ @BitlogIT 16 Jul 2017
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          It literally says "Price/mm^2" in the pdf DOH! I've been misreading things for the last 2 days, I must be tired -_-

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        3. 天 Oğuz Meteer 天‏ @BitlogIT 16 Jul 2017
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          But it is nice that prices are becoming cheaper, and with better EDA tools, a couple of people could actually afford to order custom chips.

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