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    1. Tom Verbeure‏ @tom_verbeure 13 Dec 2018
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      The VexRiscv decoder does that as part of the elaboration process. It should be possible to extract the Simplify code as a stand-alone thing. https://github.com/SpinalHDL/VexRiscv/blob/6334f430fe1bed302733c6ea6c44f8b514f3e2c6/src/main/scala/vexriscv/plugin/DecoderSimplePlugin.scala#L175 …

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    2. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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      Interesting. As a side-note, it seems @SpinalHDL has some nifty features (like the latency matching too). This is what I like best about the new HDLs. They all bring in new ideas. Chisel's diplomacy looks pretty cool for example

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    3. Tom Verbeure‏ @tom_verbeure 13 Dec 2018
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      Yes, the latency matching was crucial for my ray tracer project. I wouldn’t have done the project without it.https://tomverbeure.github.io/rtl/2018/12/01/SpinalHDL-Automated-Operand-Latency-Matching.html …

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    4. Dave  🏳️‍🌈‏ @fpga_dave 13 Dec 2018
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      I implemented my own latency matching (along with automated pipelining) in a simple C-esque HLS tool for a FPGA AR project. The 3-4 weeks spent writing that tool easily saved me 6 weeks of RTL dev and meant creating more demo apps was much less painless.

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    5. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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      Interesting. In my view, I don't think we will have a new omnipresent HDL, bit rather a lot of different (graphical and textual) DSLs to help with different tasks. What you describe is super useful for DSP. Someone stitching together a SoC need a whole different toolset and so on

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    6. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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      But to achieve this we need better tooling and foundations. Standard libraries, a common IR that EDA tools can target directly. What @M_Labs_Ltd and @whitequark do with nmigen is a step in the right direction in my opinion

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    7. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 13 Dec 2018
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      Other people will vehemently disagree but imo, especially given the existing (open and closed source) software ecosystem, simple Verilog is a good intermediate representation for integrating designs created from different DSLs.

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    8. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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      Given the existing tooling, I agree. But there are things lost in the process that makes debugging harder. This can be improved by still sticking to verilog, but my feeling is that most new HDL devs are more interested in fixing their verilog pet peeves than taking care of this

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    9. Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 13 Dec 2018
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      A large percentage of those issues would be solved if those verilog code generators would simply output `line directives.

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    10. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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      Yes. And for some languages, human-readable names. Predictable names are also pretty important when you want to match constraints or attach debug probes after synthesis, so you don't have to redo that by hand every f-in time. :)

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      Claire Xen  🏳️‍⚧️ 🏳️‍🌈 🧙🏻‍♀️ BLM  🏴 🚩‏ @oe1cxw 13 Dec 2018
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      Yes. Chisel is really bad wrt names. But a different IR wouldn't make a difference for this.

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        2. Olof Kindgren‏ @OlofKindgren 13 Dec 2018
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          Indeed. I mentioned it more as an area where HDL developers could take more care to help the users

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        3. Chisel‏ @chisel_lang 13 Dec 2018
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          Yeah, naming is a common problem everyone is hitting. FIRRTL perspective: you have Annotations (metadata attached to >=0 circuit components) and Info (source locators). Annotations track across renames, so there's semantic metadata/name preservation. Info gives debug breadcrumbs.

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        1. Dave  🏳️‍🌈‏ @fpga_dave 13 Dec 2018
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          I'm not going to comment on this one, my first HLS attempt used the hex string of internal tree pointers as wire names (one of many reasons why I've never published this codebase)

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