This is of course the main reason why ethics of belief is controversial: It has no loophole for religion. But that's not a flaw! It just shows that religion is unethical. (That doesn't mean religious people act with bad intentions. It means good intentions isn't enough.)
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Replying to @oe1cxw
Here is where we must disagree: 1) God is a person, 2) He has made many statements which have been recorded and preserved for you and I, 3) the history of Christ proves this.
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Replying to @zipcpu
You have a really strage definition of "prove" when it comes to your religion imo. A system of logic that applies one method to one source, and refuses to apply the same method to any other source is obviously inherently flawed.
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The people (humans) who wrote the books in the bible obviously had no idea where the sun went at night and didn't know what stars are. Why would I believe their bronze-age stories about the nature and origin of the universe? They are simply not a reliable source.
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Furthermore: Bronze-age moral philosophy is a joke! It's puzzling to me without end how anyone would look for moral guidence in a document that fails to condemn slavery and fails to condemn treating women as property.
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And equally important: Why would I then not believe all other bronze-age stories to be equally true? How do you know King Unis did not hunt down gods to eat them? How do you know all the other bronze-age creation myths are wrong?
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Replying to @oe1cxw
Compare the manuscript evidence between the Bible and other bronze-age creation stories. You'll then understand the difference.
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Replying to @zipcpu
No, I don't. But maybe you can explain to me what you think the difference is because I really don't see any. And any claim that the bible is a "God given book" based on claims in that book (or books based on it) is just ridiculous. I hope you can see that.
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Replying to @oe1cxw
Yes. I can see the problems with a claim that the Bible is true because it says so, especially to one who doesn't already trust it. A implies A just doesn't prove all that much. That was why I was suggesting you examine the manuscript evidence.pic.twitter.com/WeMlsBBshX
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Replying to @zipcpu
I grew up in a catholic family. Even wanted to become a priest at one point as a child because I believed the nonsense for a little while. But then I grew up. My youngest brother turned out differently and even got a university degree in theology.
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So do not assume I'm ignorant just because I do not share your conclusions! I've wasted enough of my lifetime examining the stories/falsehoods/lies you call "manuscript evidence". There is nothing there except peer pressure to accept the beliefs of the people around you.
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