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    odysseanproject‏ @odysseanproject 11 Oct 2016

    2 Make it MUCH EASIER for hi-skill imgrnts to move: #1 priority=scientists & esp hard quant skills - free m/ment for maths/physics PhDs etc

    4:35 AM - 11 Oct 2016
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      2. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @odysseanproject

        What about high IQ folk without requisite qualifications? Let's have free movement of IQ 115+

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      3. Alex Mitchelmore‏ @AlexMitchelmore 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @odysseanproject

        This is surely a joke

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      4. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @AlexMitchelmore @odysseanproject

        Why? IQ predicts almost everything that matters (income, health, crime). Open the door to all of them.

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      5. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @AlexMitchelmore @odysseanproject

        I'm not saying that you'd ban people with IQ 115's or less, just keep whatever the current system is.

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      6. Sam Dumitriu‏ @Sam_Dumitriu 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @AlexMitchelmore @odysseanproject

        But no downside, lotta upside to open borders for bright folk.

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      7. Alex Mitchelmore‏ @AlexMitchelmore 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @Sam_Dumitriu @odysseanproject

        Problems off top of my head: How to internationally certify? How to guard against gaming IQ tests? >

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Alex Mitchelmore‏ @AlexMitchelmore 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @AlexMitchelmore @Sam_Dumitriu @odysseanproject

        Why not select on qualities, not 2nd order indicator? What of qualities we want not indicated by intelligence

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      9. Alex Mitchelmore‏ @AlexMitchelmore 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @AlexMitchelmore @Sam_Dumitriu @odysseanproject

        What of obvious political undeliverability? Etc etc. There's a reason it's not a system anyone uses.

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      2. Sarah Kendrew‏ @sarahkendrew 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @odysseanproject

        agree! though academics outside of quant sciences also highly valuable.

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      3. Tuppence‏ @TuppenceFervour 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @sarahkendrew @odysseanproject

        We also need to keep hold of more of our best & brightest. Means paying them more and impr. quality of life.

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      4. Sarah Kendrew‏ @sarahkendrew 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @TuppenceFervour @odysseanproject

        and yes in my field and in my experience salaries & start up grants in UK don’t compare with those in US

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      5. Tuppence‏ @TuppenceFervour 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @sarahkendrew @odysseanproject

        Are we talking multiples (of average UK salaries)?

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      6. Sarah Kendrew‏ @sarahkendrew 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @TuppenceFervour @odysseanproject

        double wouldn’t be unusual. also much more room for negotiation on salary, start up package etc.

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      2. Luke McLaughlin‏ @LukeMcLaughlin 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @odysseanproject

        High-skilled or otherwise foreign nationals will have no interest in insular/backward-looking UK esp. with economy tanking

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Tuppence‏ @TuppenceFervour 11 Oct 2016
        Replying to @LukeMcLaughlin @odysseanproject

        Yh, but that's all in your head. You can choose to keep on ignoring that if you wish.

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    1. Luke McLaughlin‏ @LukeMcLaughlin 11 Oct 2016
      Replying to @odysseanproject

      That is the reality - you can choose to continue to ignore it if you wish.

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    2. Duncan Green‏ @MungoWump 11 Oct 2016
      Replying to @odysseanproject

      How do you exclude non-subjects like "Women's Studies"?

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