haha, sorry, that was not my intention, I am merely establishing our common ground, see where our thinking diverges. Since you were just explaining to me your views on science …
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But then it does go back to my question, when is something scientism, what are the criteria? Because using science to make sure other fields (philosophy/politics/morality) are realistic is not scientism, imho. But using science to prescribe things for those fields is.
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I think we agree on the things you are saying in your last two sentences.
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So not everybody using science to say something about these other fields is necessary committing scientism. And I assume a subjective criteria, basically “I disagree, therefor scientism”, is not how we want to identify scientism either. So what objective criteria to use?
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There is no such thing as objective criteria. It's not a coincidence an extreme right ideology is called Objectivism. Assuming these is one true way to do something is the same trap scientism falls into.
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But surely something else then “it feel this way to me”? You wrote a whole article about it, what main indicators would you use?
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I did. Feel free to check it out. Twitter isn't idea too expound on my views, so I wrote an article.
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I think an objective criteria is: science is about the how, so whoever is reading goals or morals or intentions in there is committing scientism.
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So science can answer "how to make Olivia happy"?
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"how" as in the mechanics, causes and effects, probabilities, etc. Insofar science can quantify causes and effects around happiness, it certainly isn't mute about it. But not prescriptive. And its a very subjective area …
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The problem is that science doesn't exist in a vacuum so yes it ends up being used prescrively by exactly those kinds of people.
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