Would you still advocate everyone learn to code? (Serious Q - not sarcastic!)
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Replying to @kirstie_j
So much going on in your question but just to touch on some tips of some of the icebergs: a. being a coder isn't mutually exclusive to being a designer or a writer. I do all.
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Replying to @o_guest @kirstie_j
b. those who code in science e.g.
@ResearchSoftEng are less credited than those who make figures or write papers (esp latter). I don't think the issue is that coding is always privileged, in fact it's not except in very special cases — cases that intersect heavily w privilege.1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
For example, I'm often praised for how http://oliviaguest.com/neuroplausible.com/bradlove.org … LOOKS and almost never (maybe once?) praised about the code I wrote. So I am praised for the design over the code pretty much always.
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Ha! I sillily broke those links — sorry! Here: http://oliviaguest.com / http://neuroplausible.com / http://bradlove.org / http://redistrict.science — I've coded all of these in HTML, CSS, JS but I get praise almost always without fail along the lines of "so pretty".
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And of course they don't mean the source code is pretty [it isn't in many cases HAHA] they mean the design. And that's actually part of the problem. Only certain classes of people are typically praised for certain things.
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Replying to @o_guest @ResearchSoftEng
Kirstie Whitaker Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
I think this is SO FREAKING TRUE (and really annoying)https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/993906860154609665?s=21 …
Kirstie Whitaker added,
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guestReplying to @o_guest @kirstie_j @ResearchSoftEngAnd of course they don't mean the source code is pretty [it isn't in many cases HAHA] they mean the design. And that's actually part of the problem. Only certain classes of people are typically praised for certain things.1 reply 1 retweet 1 like -
This is the problem with the “recognise all the things equally” that I suggested - we need to break down the biases that already exist before we get there.
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Replying to @kirstie_j @ResearchSoftEng
Surely we can do all of these things at the same time and make inroads on many fronts?
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Replying to @o_guest @ResearchSoftEng
Yes - so long as we’re all aware of these different fronts. It’s more complex than a one size fits all plan......but that’s the real world with real humans right there!! Thanks again for the thoughts
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Yeah, I want all of them to listen to my advice and weight it as appropriate.
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I would never tell somebody who heard what I have to say and decided it's not for them "you are wrong" — but I also won't stop myself saying "I think you should learn to code" as a general piece of advice, "I think you could learn how to code".
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