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    1. Patti Shih‏ @pattithepotato 2 May 2018
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      just randomly tagging some peeps that might have an opinion on this... @BecomingDataSci @o_guest @nickwan

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @pattithepotato @BecomingDataSci @nickwan

      OK, so there's two different things going on here. 1. Copy-pasting SNIPPETS is usually fine because 2 lines of code or like how write a Python list comprehension for the thing at hand is not really "intellectual property". That's what snippet means usually.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @pattithepotato and

      2. STEALING chunks of somebody's code, i.e., passing off lines and lines of code written by another person/team as something you wrote is intellectual theft. So yes, that is 100% plagiarism. If they attribute it correctly according to the license of the code, then it's not theft.

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    4. Patti Shih‏ @pattithepotato 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @BecomingDataSci @nickwan

      I'm wondering where to draw the line between situation 1 and 2. At 5 lines of code? 10 lines?

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @pattithepotato @BecomingDataSci @nickwan

      Literally 1 or 2. But also on a case by case basis, it really depends. Can you DM me the example(s)?

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    6. Patti Shih‏ @pattithepotato 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @BecomingDataSci @nickwan

      I'll have to trace back my steps and see if I can find them. It might take some digging.

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    7. Nick Wan‏ @nickwan 2 May 2018
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      i mean, i'll say this. if you google for keras char rnn, a lot of code on blogs look a lot likehttps://github.com/keras-team/keras/blob/master/examples/lstm_text_generation.py …

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @nickwan @pattithepotato @BecomingDataSci

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      To avoid us all repeating stuff, see this side-thread. Basically they may repeat a lot of stuff but if it's boiler plate unoriginal stuff that "everybody does" it's probably un-copyrightable.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/991739104021876736 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @o_guest @__WhiPP__ @pattithepotato
      For example in the UK: "original non-literary written work, such as software, web content and databases" https://www.gov.uk/copyright 
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    9. Patti Shih‏ @pattithepotato 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @nickwan @BecomingDataSci

      But in the Keras example, it seems like that is an example of basic usage, despite the fact that the keras library itself is under MIT license.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      As I said elsewhere, my personal best practise is to still cite it. Somebody still wrote that and if I lift it verbatim, I want to know who I am quoting (so to speak).https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/991743940553474048 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @jtth @pattithepotato and 2 others
      IMHO: Even something in official docs (if long, more than 2 lines) should be cited back to the official docs if lifted verbatim.
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 May 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @pattithepotato and

      Also yes, as you say it's basic usage and OF COURSE keras is not going to sue you over using. But you would be pretty shitty if you pretending YOU wrote those lines of code yourself.

      11:21 AM - 2 May 2018
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