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    1. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 9 Apr 2018
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      Berna D. Retweeted Chris Chambers

      that’s some expert level pettiness there. yuck! i wouldn’t think the editors would let it pass though, would they?https://twitter.com/chrisdc77/status/983372173363634176 …

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      Chris ChambersVerified account @chrisdc77
      Replying to @siminevazire @sTeamTraen and 2 others
      Here's a fun memory: sitting in a pub when I was a PhD student & being lectured by some drunk mid-career academic who nobody liked that his secret to success was signing his +ve reviews but impersonating his enemies anonymously in his -ve reviews. 10/10 for ethics, mate!
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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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      How would the editors know /have the head space to notice (especially between journals)?

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    3. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest

      Oh I just somehow thought they signed by different names and that would be something not that difficult to catch, given editors know reviewers’ names. Otherwise I’m not sure how one impersonates others “anonymously” though.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @zerdeve

      Oh, shit! I actually misread this. You are right. I'm tempted to think this person might be pulling Chris' lag?

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve

      What I thought, wrongly, was they were signing the good ones but pretending to be other people by writing as if they were ("In my lab this, that" which would be true for a competitor) other people.

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    6. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest

      Yeah maybe that’s what anonymously mean. I’m not sure. Then it would be harder to catch for sure.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @zerdeve

      Not impossible, but hard.

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    8. Rob Mok‏ @Rob_Mok 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve

      there's an easy trick - ask them to cite that lab's / person's papers

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    9. Gordon Feld‏ @GordonFeld 10 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Rob_Mok @o_guest @zerdeve

      I sometimes do the opposite. If I ask the authors to cite another/opposing lab's paper (as it is relevant), I add more to prevent the impression that this was them, e.g.: "Please consider citing A et al., B et al. & C et al."

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Chris Chambers

      That's why I think this tactic doesn't actually work, because nobody can pick up on it (my first reply).https://twitter.com/chrisdc77/status/983705086076571651 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Chris ChambersVerified account @chrisdc77
      Replying to @o_guest @siminevazire and 3 others
      Not so explicit cos then you can get called out by the editor. It was more writing a dismissive review and citing a whole shitload of studies in the review by said enemy (and esp. anything you might know about as in-press cos this implies you really are that person)
      7:52 AM - 10 Apr 2018
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          If somebody tells me to cite a load of studies by "them" (which aren't even that relevant) I can think 1 of 2 things: "they" are a douchebag and/or that a nemesis of "theirs" is a douchebag. BUT! I can genuinely have a calibrated prior going into this about both them and "them".

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          Also they and "they" could both be reviewers of a given paper — likely given they are in the same sub(sub)field hence the feud. In which case it's hilarious as well as perhaps much easier to see what's up.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          So all in all I think a lot of this is noise and gets factored out. Either you don't pick up on it at all or you do but it's still just noise as feuds are likely only really that cultivated between two real nob-heads. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          And so it's irrelevant who "they" and they are — just that they are annoying. 😂

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          And if one of them is an angel and the other always impersonates the angel, then that act will fall apart soon.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 10 Apr 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @GordonFeld and

          Really silly tactic in the grand scheme of scheming IMHO. It doesn't even consider that some people will just cite all of their nemesis' papers just to get accepted. A kind of cool own-goal.

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