Of course a lot of cheating isn't really students working together, but again that only happens at all because evaluation creates the incentive to cheat
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Replying to @DRMacIver
I really disagree. From personal and other experience, we know it's only in group students who help each other. That means out group people get lower marks by definition... And we know who in group people are in compsci, white, male, able bodied, etc.
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Replying to @o_guest
Yeah, that is a major problem, and I'm definitely not suggesting that the status quo is good, but I still think group work and collaboration are vital for learning. I don't know how to reconcile these issues.
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Replying to @DRMacIver @o_guest
unfortunately, everytime I tried nobody but the in-group people wanted to join my group, no matter how many incentives were on the table for everyone else, we were never appealing since we did not belong to "their group" but somehow we got the blame for being "the group"
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Replying to @sysrex @DRMacIver
What? You tried to help women and they rejected you, you mean?
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Replying to @sysrex @DRMacIver
People pointing out potential innuendos and being sarcastic/mocking me for them in my speech was really common in compsci. Since emigrating to the UK it's been something that really confused and upset me. It stopped when I left compsci. Interesting that you also did it here.
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Replying to @o_guest @DRMacIver
you literally implied that I wanted to help women and they rejected me while talking about a quite serious matter , there was no sarcasm / mockery
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Replying to @sysrex @DRMacIver
And it seems like I was right that they didn't want to participate and you wanted them to. I just used "reject" and you assumed I was hinting at a romantic rejection.
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Replying to @o_guest @DRMacIver
my bad then, poor choice of words and / or lack of caffeine
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Appreciated & caffeine is very important. 

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