The [ ] around 'hu' shows that it's a prefix added to original
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Replying to @Abebab @okeefekat
So it does, my apologies, I hadn't noticed that. I still think it's a bad idea to add prefix in quote when it's unnecessary to explain meaning. Perhaps other scholars are as un observant as myself
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But it can be necessary to explain the meaning. It is not always clear in classic texts whether or not ‘men’ and ‘mankind’ was used to include other people besides men, either in principle or in spirit.
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So is confusion over meaning the reason for the amendment? Really? I didn't think I was quite that old - even Darwin used it in an inclusive sense.
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Replying to @Homoloquax1 @IrisVanRooij and
I think it's inherently exclusive TBH to say men instead of people, for example — but I know what you mean, the different intentions behind it do exist. However, the different intentions may differ from reader to reader as well as speaker to speaker.
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Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
It's complex as even "people" or "citizens" can be used exclusively/to erase. For example, one might say citizens could vote in Ancient Athens (which BTW is what I was taught at school) but the truth is that only men (who had been through military training as ephebes) could vote.
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Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
My default reaction is to take people at face value in many cases. So if somebody says any of the above ambiguous/exclusionary/etc words, I just reply them as if they intended the prima facie meaning.
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Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
This does tend to often irritate of course.
But a lot of language is by default sexist, cisheteronormative, racist, etc. so it's no surprise canned expressions are pretty awful.1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes -
Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
In short, I assume the speaker is just fine in of themselves with good to neutral intentions but that their ability to express them clearly is affected by the biases in (their) language that they haven't addressed (yet).
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Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
I only assume all this if of course I know nothing else. Of course in many conversations, you may discover more details about somebody which can bias your assumptions towards a more refined conclusions about what is being done and the angle.
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Speaking of context (partial, assumed, etc.) the Ancient Greeks had really really much much worse taste than we think. Really garish. https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/gods-in-color-ancient-world-polychromy …
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Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and
I love those. They remind me of Mexican religious statues.
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