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    1. Michael Collins‏ @Homoloquax1 2 Apr 2018
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      If its paraphrasing then that's fine but there are quotation marks around the text suggesting to most scholars its a direct quote.

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    2. Abeba Birhane‏ @Abebab 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Homoloquax1 @okeefekat

      The [ ] around 'hu' shows that it's a prefix added to original

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    3. Michael Collins‏ @Homoloquax1 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Abebab @okeefekat

      So it does, my apologies, I hadn't noticed that. I still think it's a bad idea to add prefix in quote when it's unnecessary to explain meaning. Perhaps other scholars are as un observant as myself 😜

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    4. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 2 Apr 2018
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      But it can be necessary to explain the meaning. It is not always clear in classic texts whether or not ‘men’ and ‘mankind’ was used to include other people besides men, either in principle or in spirit.

      3 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    5. Michael Collins‏ @Homoloquax1 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @Abebab @okeefekat

      So is confusion over meaning the reason for the amendment? Really? I didn't think I was quite that old - even Darwin used it in an inclusive sense.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 Apr 2018
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      I think it's inherently exclusive TBH to say men instead of people, for example — but I know what you mean, the different intentions behind it do exist. However, the different intentions may differ from reader to reader as well as speaker to speaker.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 Apr 2018
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      It's complex as even "people" or "citizens" can be used exclusively/to erase. For example, one might say citizens could vote in Ancient Athens (which BTW is what I was taught at school) but the truth is that only men (who had been through military training as ephebes) could vote.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 Apr 2018
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      My default reaction is to take people at face value in many cases. So if somebody says any of the above ambiguous/exclusionary/etc words, I just reply them as if they intended the prima facie meaning.

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    9. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @Homoloquax1 and

      I'm not so sure we can really claim to know whether the term was used with an inclusive meaning or not. Even if we were to have good enough knowledge of the averaged use of the term, we cannot know a past writer's intention, unless they have explicitly stated it.

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    10. Abeba Birhane‏ @Abebab 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @o_guest and

      You know who's clearly stated their intentions?! Kant!pic.twitter.com/SkSxIH5teG

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 2 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @Abebab @twitemp1 and

      Yeah, obviously in those cases I do not need to make any assumptions. 🤢

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