@manwhohasitall girls includes all men as well :p
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Replying to @maria_ndrnh @Abebab and
This reminds me. I REALLY hate "ladies" and "girls" used to refer to all men in the army. So grodies!
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Replying to @o_guest @maria_ndrnh and
I'm only catching up with my notifications now. I'm also, only catching up with the nuanced cultural meanings attached to these words, which they don't teach you in school, only recently, since living in an English speaking country.
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IMHO one of the first rules in professional communication is honesty in the aims. Using terms that are potentially demeaning is indicative of covert goals
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I agree with you but sometimes, esp if you come from a non-English speaking culture, it takes a lot to understand which words carry demeaning tone. I honestly thought "ladies" and "women" were interchangeable till now. But I'm learning and tankful for y'all.
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I think there is a nugget of truth in what they are saying, but many women are not bothered by being called "ladies". Best to respect the wishes of those you know. https://ask.metafilter.com/200453/Why-are-some-women-offended-by-the-term-ladies …
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Replying to @PaulRoundy1 @Abebab and
Any time. Abeba! Also just wanted to say again how nice it was to meet you (and
@maria_ndrnh of course) in person.
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Replying to @o_guest @PaulRoundy1 and
When I first moved here English people, mostly men due to my course (CompSci) and due to generally men being more like this IMHO, mocked the way I spoke so much. It was a tough time and a tough lesson in how to speak.
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Replying to @o_guest @PaulRoundy1 and
I remember more than once especially late at night men would mock everything about how I spoke, from my voice's tone to the word choices to the my misunderstandings because of a small language barrier, etc.
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After 22 years I still haven't learned their ways. But that's just me! :)
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I don't have any white English friends really — make of that what you will.
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