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    1. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest @gedankenstuecke

      So if we are referring to sex are female/male are ok (ish)?

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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 23 Dec 2017
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      I think so yes, if that fits with a person's sex (so, intersex etc aside). Just find it odd to refer to one another's sex in contexts where that seems irrelevant.

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    3. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest @gedankenstuecke

      I agree, I also find it very odd to attempt to identify a person's sex in an irrelevant context. My problem is that I also believe that referring to gender might be irrelevant in many context (think of a job application) Why is it needed to know the gender of the applicant?

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @twitemp1 @IrisVanRooij @gedankenstuecke

      Sometimes it is needed, generally not. For example to address lack of diversity or to carry out jobs where it would otherwise be impossible (women's officer, working in a rape survivor's unit, etc).

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @twitemp1 @gedankenstuecke

      Agreed, with both of you. I realized later that even the use of 'woman professor' does not pass the Finkbeiner test: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finkbeiner_test …

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    6. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 23 Dec 2017
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      There are some special circumstances where we need to be able talk about gender though, especially to address diversity issues. If we cannot name than we cannot address. Cf. ppl who claim that we should not talk about 'race' at all because that ...

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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and

      ... would be 'racism', while in fact it just silences those who want to address racial injustice and institutionalized racism. Same for sexism IMO.

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    8. Bastian Greshake Tzovaras‏Verified account @gedankenstuecke 23 Dec 2017
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      (fwiw) fully agree with this. Eg that’s why I wanted to include the gender breakdowns to show these biases.

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    9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @gedankenstuecke @o_guest @twitemp1

      I understood that when I saw the labels :) Gives ppl insight in the (lack of) diversity of their own interactions (on one aspect of diversity, that is).

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Dec 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @gedankenstuecke @twitemp1

      Lost in a side thread is a link about this, which you might find interesting https://emptysqua.re/blog/gender-of-twitter-users-i-follow/ …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Dec 2017
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      Not in every context but in this one, what can be measured can be improved!

      11:36 AM - 23 Dec 2017
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