Pardon my ignorance here but I'm really confused. Besides relating to other species, what's the difference? Not trying to be difficult. I just don't get it.
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It's the disparity between use "males" vs "females". The latter is basically only used for women and animals, while the former is almost never used to refer to human men. I'll dig up some research for you done on massive corpora.
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Ok, so women are linked to animals (mediated by the term "female") and men are not. So ... female and man would be terrible, but "male"? Still confused
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I see multiple issues. The one pointed out by
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A 2nd issue (actually implied by what
@o_guest wrote) is that we use the terms 'women' and 'men' for people/persons/humans.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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A 3rd issue is that 'women' and 'men' usually is used to refer to gender identy and not sex. In these overviews I think we intend to refer to people and their identities and not their sex (right?).
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A 4th issue that is related to the 3rd, is that refering to people's sex when we actually mean their gender feeds into the mistaken idea that gender is "really just sex" (some reductive idea of gender).
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I'm probably still missing some nuances.
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In any case, I try to eg make a habit of saying things such as 'women professors' instead of 'female professors'.
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Ok. Not arguing at all, just curious. Thank you very much. Hmm I think I see much clearly the difference if I translate it to Spanish. Certainly "hembra" (female) sounds horrible.
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One small thing is that gender and sex are actually both fluid and basically the same thing. Just because a woman has a penis doesn't mean her gender or her sex is male. I would never call a trans woman's penis male no more than her fingernails are male.
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Male/female are human concepts applies to a huge spectrum of biological realities.
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And man/woman the same, they are simplifying and often oppressive labels that often disallow people to self-identify.
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