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    1. Kelly Ellis‏Verified account @justkelly_ok 22 Nov 2017
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      Kelly Ellis Retweeted Zeppelin Blanc

      The notion that the terms "master" and "slave" have no historical context is false. Otherwise they would be "snoffl" and "barble".https://twitter.com/xobb/status/933446064929087488 …

      Kelly Ellis added,

      Zeppelin Blanc @xobb
      Oh that escalated quickly. People attitude has something to do with industry terms that do not have any gendered or historical context, but unequivocally describe things. Respecting you peeps and calling servers that do the job when Jenkins commands is now interconnected. https://twitter.com/justkelly_ok/status/933011085594066944 …
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    2. Kai Blin‏ @kaiblin 23 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @justkelly_ok @o_guest

      I was always going with master/minion, also for the alliteration. But snoffl/barble does have a certain ring to it.

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    3. Kai Blin‏ @kaiblin 23 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @kaiblin @justkelly_ok @o_guest

      To suggest that master/slave can be separated from the historical context is naive or worse.

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    4. Todor Genov‏ @tgenov 24 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @kaiblin @justkelly_ok @o_guest

      Then I must be naive. Or worse. I had separated them quite successfully. Right until this tweet. The word "master" and "slave" evoke emotional pain thanks to MySQL. #DomainDependence

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2017
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      Replying to @tgenov @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

      It's not so much that you are not expected to separate them. For example, if you're white and otherwise unaffected negatively by historical or modern slavery I can see how and why you have them separated. What is expected from you is to understand that is not the case for others.

      7:56 AM - 24 Nov 2017
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @tgenov and

          Also another thing to bear in mind that just because you have them consciously separated doesn't mean you have them fully separated. You might for example, have a bias outside your conscious control towards associating master with male/white and slave with female/black.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @tgenov and

          You also might not, but either way, the point stands that is expected of you is not to separate them or not, but to think about how they may affect people other than yourself.

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        4. Todor Genov‏ @tgenov 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

          I acknowledge that you may hold such an expectation, yet you fail to recognize that I don't. And so your expectation isn't any of my concern unless I give my consent to be held accountable to your (but not my) standard. We call them contracts, promises etc.

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @tgenov @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

          I can't believe you don't care given you replied. 😂

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        6. Todor Genov‏ @tgenov 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

          What I mostly care bout is having to learn (yet another) nomenclature/language to express the same concept. It goes against the principles of consistency/simplicity. There comes a point one recognizes it's an impossible optimization problem when scaled to 7.2 billion people.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @tgenov @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

          Cool story.

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        8. Todor Genov‏ @tgenov 24 Nov 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @kaiblin @justkelly_ok

          See! It's that easy to not give a fuck ;)

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