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    1. Daniël Lakens‏Verified account @lakens 22 Sep 2017
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      To add: I do get the emotional response. I have/had it. But rationally, this is how open science is supposed to work.

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    2. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @lakens @LisaDeBruine

      I put data etc in the public domain b/c I want them to reuse it freely. My emotional response to them doing what I want is positive.

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    3. Joost Dessing‏ @JoostDessing 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @lakens @LisaDeBruine

      Can see both emotional responses. Waiting with uploading until publication is still open science. Directly uploading is #OpenerScience

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    4. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @JoostDessing @lakens @LisaDeBruine

      The negative response is imo a ghost of Christmas past. I guess it's natural during this transitional period but it shouldn't be accepted.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @JoostDessing and

      Not sure it's "Xmas past" given that primacy — who found X 1st — is HIGHLY prized in sci. The paper that is published 1st gets most cites.

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    6. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @JoostDessing and

      If sci's are concerned about scooping then I would suggest they don't archive open data w/ their preprints. Either share at preprint stage >

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    7. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @o_guest and

      > on request (or under gated model), with usage conditions attached, and/or delay open data until publication of the paper in a journal.

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    8. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @o_guest and

      What is untenable imo is researchers releasing open data & then expecting ppl to *necessarily* do anything beyond citing it following reuse.

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    9. Alex Morley‏ @alex__morley 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @o_guest and

      Agree if you say this is open go for it. But prior to pub putting usage conditions (e.g. collaboration etc.) on the data is OK?

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    10. Chris Chambers‏Verified account @chrisdc77 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @alex__morley @o_guest and

      Yeah of course. Absolutely fine in my book.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 22 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @chrisdc77 @alex__morley and

      Although I would suggest if you want to limit others' analyses or publication of analyses it's more prudent to release after publication.

      4:16 AM - 22 Sep 2017
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

          That doesn't mean reviewers can't see the data [Chris mentioned this option: gated].

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

          Also to clarify, I _always_ use this option.

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        4. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @chrisdc77 and

          The situation here was people with an effect of menstrual cycle on attractiveness that we don't get in a much larger sample.

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        5. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

          As others have said, we made it public so Imfair enough that they went looking for their effect in our data.

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        6. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

          It's not there, but I was surprised to learn they are writing up including our data for publication.

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        7. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

          As other have said, we made it open prior to publication so that's on us.

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        8. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

          Been putting all my data online ahead of submission but going to pause that and think it through. Might be better to wait for acceptance.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 22 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @Ben_C_J @chrisdc77 and

          Yeah, you are right. If you didn't want them to write up analyses of your data before you published your analyses, you could have waited.

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