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    1. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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      2/ bad advice given the reality of the present system.I know of some folks who were actually able to transfer to non-academic jobs this way.

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    2. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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      3/ You're right that it's not a long-term solution. The PhD system in general needs to be seriously revisited.

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    3. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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      4/ In fact, it probably needed to be seriously revisited about 40 years ago, but their wasn't an abundance of quit lit back then.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      I can't speak for the USA one, but the European and UK ones (which differ dramatically from USA and each other) are terrible in many cases.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      The problems are manifold, but seriously telling people to seek non scientific employment in order to make it in science is disingenuous at

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      best and manipulative lies at worst IMHO.

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    7. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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      Well, it won't necessarily help you make it in science, but I'd like to point out that this is the model of employment that actors use.

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    8. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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      In NYC, more often than not you'll find that a lot of the clerical staff and real estate brokers also harbor ambitions of working on B'way.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      That's not the same at all. You do a phd because you want to work in science usually. The phd is the dream job.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      That's like saying the estate agent is already doing their dream job. They aren't. They want to act. Phd is doing the dream.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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      But anyway, sure you can advise your PhD students to get other jobs, I can't stop you.

      2:59 PM - 18 Sep 2017
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        2. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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          I wouldn't advise people to do that, I'm just pointing out that there are analogous situations in other professions.

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        3. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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          To be clear, I also don't believe that stipends are fair.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Sep 2017
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          It's a diff system here. I don't know enough about USA system TBH.

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        5. Johanan Pellman‏ @jaipelai 18 Sep 2017
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          Stipends usually average around $27000 for 9 months. That's less than an entry level position for someone fresh out of college.

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