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    1. Thomas Richardson‏ @Richie_Research 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @AlexJonesPhD @Ben_C_J and

      A lot of it is really just putting numbers on what you see going on with Lisa's face above. I suspect selfie cameras also have wider lenses

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @Richie_Research @AlexJonesPhD and

      Why do you think that actual face width is a good variable to measure/infer sexuality when there's no credible theory postulating a link?

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    3. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @AlexJonesPhD and

      It's a terrible measure. But the paper cites jaw contour & nose morph as what their ML used; this shows those are highly malleable.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @LisaDeBruine @AlexJonesPhD and

      Sure, that's fine. But some people above are asking for 3d scans of people's heads.

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    5. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

      Sorry, just to clarify......my point was that if you want to measure stuff from faces, 3D scans are the best way to do it.

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    6. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

      People make strong claims about links between aspects of face shape and things like hormones.

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    7. Ben Jones‏ @Ben_C_J 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @Ben_C_J @o_guest and

      To test these ideas well you need to measure face shape well.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @Ben_C_J @LisaDeBruine and

      Hormones affecting face shape might be a nice little correlation to look into. Nowt to do with sexuality.

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    9. Lisa DeBruine  🏳️‍🌈‏ @LisaDeBruine 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @Ben_C_J and

      What makes a morphology-sexuality link taboo to investigate? I *feel* like that study's not OK, but I want to be able to explain that better

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    10. Thomas Richardson‏ @Richie_Research 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @LisaDeBruine @o_guest and

      My main issue was that it could be used for anti gay governments /groups to identify people for murder. Ppl get beat up 4 *looking* muslim

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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      Replying to @Richie_Research @LisaDeBruine and

      Yes, it happened to my friends. In fact, the 1st person I spoke to randomly in the UK when I just moved here wouldn't continue talking to me

      2:37 PM - 12 Sep 2017
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          unless I clarified if I'm Muslim.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          My mum's brown and she wasn't allowed into Germany when we were driving around Europe until they checked her religion wasn't Muslim.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 12 Sep 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @LisaDeBruine and

          So yeah, I have various personal and scientific reasons to think this kind of research is flawed and feeds people's bigotry.

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