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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Aug 2017
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      Cos they reject the role society gives them, don't see themselves represented by it, and think all women are the same. Self-hatred is real.

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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @kmpetersson and

      Same for some gay ppl who feel that gay ppl should behave 'normal' (meaning: as heteronormative as possble) if they expect to be 'accepted'.

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @kmpetersson and

      Yep.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 24 Aug 2017
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      Gay men have gender ids they created too, twink— bear. Gay women have femme — butch. Binary gender spectra are common in queer spaces too.

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @kmpetersson and

      Always was quite uncomfortable with those, for myself. To get back to your earlier tweet:

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    6. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      For me more the reverse: I identify as woman, but my appearance/clothes are rather agender or androgenous.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/899722889636831234 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @o_guest @kleinherenbrink and 7 others
      I'm personally more into being described as agender but still would describe my clothes as femme.
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    7. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and

      Throughout my life, ppl often confused about my gender. On one hand surprises me (bcse of contrast to identity), on other hand used to it.

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    8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and

      In any case, re: feature space discussion: Think you right that all kinds of combinations possible without simple mapping to identity.

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    9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      Iris van Rooij Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ

      Like you said eg this:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/900727928169877504 …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guest
      Replying to @o_guest @kmpetersson and 6 others
      So to model it you have to realise that a person might have exactly the same end result as another, e.g., "male", but different features.
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    10. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 24 Aug 2017
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      To me, seems to raise Q: what does determine gender, if any set of features & its complement can be consistent with a given gender identity.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @IrisVanRooij @kleinherenbrink and

      At the end of the day gender is two things: a personal construct (like saying you like something) and

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          a social construct (what (you think) others think when they see, talk, interact with you).

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          With respect to the personal construct its unknowable. You can't tell by looking at me if I hate cheese.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          With respect to the social construct its obviously knowable to various extents. I put on a top that says "do not fucking feed me cheese".

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          This is why gender is complex. Nothing to do with penises or even brains directly, although people make it about them.

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and

          For figuring all this out BTW I owe a lot of educational debt to trans women, esp @stuxnetsource and others, because they have understood

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          not only that gender as it currently is understood/described/prescribed by society is illogical BS but also that it can kill. 🌸💖💪

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        8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @kleinherenbrink and

          I know. It's heartwrenching.

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 25 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @IrisVanRooij @kleinherenbrink and

          Never look at murder rates for trans women, by which I mean, always do. It's always an outrage how QTPOC and trans and bi women are abused.

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