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    1. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      So would be vital to safeguard against that in one way or another. Still, rejecting simple binary & showing truth is more complex, ...

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    2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      in itself may go some way in countering (imposed/normative) categorisation.

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    3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      Is left-over risk of normativity, however: ppl also have tendency to see most frequent (familiar) as 'norm(al)' & less frequent as abnormal.

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    4. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      So eg if in complex space of possibilities many people taking up few regions in this space, those may (again) be(come) seen as norms.

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    5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      To me this view seems flawed, nothing inherently normative in the "most frequent". Says more about human psychology,

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    6. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      but important to consider in math / formal approach as per your and Butler's warnings.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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      Yeah, many of my friends are trans and I need to remind myself normies/cis ppl have no clue about gender sometimes. 😅

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    8. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      Makes sense, low exposure to diversity. Psychology of human categorisation can explain, I think, why cis' concepts of gender may tend to be

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    9. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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      different (bold conjecture: lower average Kolmogorov complexity) than from trans people, or those otherwise outside the binary/gender norms.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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      Yeah, many trans women, although I am not speaking for them, tend to open especially cis men's eyes to the possibility that straight and gay

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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      make no sense if one was defining then using binarism.

      2:52 PM - 21 Aug 2017
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          Especially since many trans women themselves go through stages wherein their sexual orientation was read as straight, then gay, then bi

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          because the way most people describe orientation is based on their reading (often wrong) of the genders involved.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          This is descriptors such a gyne and androphilic were created, although obv these words too suffer from inherent binarism if taken to be

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        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          exclusive. *This is why

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        6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          So much regarding human sexuality and gender presupposes a binary.

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        2. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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          Replying to @o_guest @JCSkewesDK and

          I can see that. Now wondering if outside the binary it does make sense, ultimately. Not arguing against self-identification (I do too!),

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        3. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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          just not sure our gender/sex concepts are always internally consistent (stable) in the end.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 21 Aug 2017
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          Yep, so much muddies the waters. Femmephobia is another huge issue too within LGBT and feminist spaces, as well as more widely.

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        5. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 21 Aug 2017
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          Thanks for pointing this out. I read up on femmephobia and how it works (here: http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/02/femmephobia-queer-community/ …) Recognize it, yes, sadly.

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