I (and probably others too) interpret calling behavior 'out of line' as meaning that you shouldn't.https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/897380042770173952 …
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Replying to @Research_Tim @Julie_B92 and
It is clear to me now that you don't (and I apologies for m role in this confusion), but I think this is why a lot seem to misinterpret you.
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Replying to @Research_Tim @Julie_B92 and
Being a student myself, being told that I am out of line by asking my supervisors to do what we agreed on doesn't sit well with me.
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Replying to @Research_Tim @Julie_B92 and
You agreed with your supervisor that you will manage their time for them?
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Replying to @o_guest @Julie_B92 and
If they don't give me feedback within a month (assuming I actually need it to progress) then I'll surely remind them.
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Replying to @Research_Tim @o_guest and
When I don't need the feedback I usually won't ask for it. When I do, I'll ask and state the purpose and how urgent it is.
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Replying to @Research_Tim @o_guest and
Maybe this is also partly a cultural difference? PhD students in the Netherlands have a stronger position than elsewhere, I believe.
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Replying to @Research_Tim @o_guest and
Yes, think NL quite diff academic culture. More 'flat' structure/culture, egalitarian & direct communication. Similar experience in Canada.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @Research_Tim and
Though should add, at international institute so culture is mixed. Much may depend on indiv pref/styles. Clear communication is key indeed.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @Research_Tim and
That's really all I'm advocating for: clear communication that is instigated very early on by the supervisor
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And clear communication includes realising what is the baseline obligations each person has.
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Replying to @o_guest @Julie_B92 and
Adding to them is fine, but baseline job requirements are important to bear in mind because at the end of the day if somebody is unhappy
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Replying to @o_guest @Julie_B92 and
all you have to fall back on are the baseline job obligations, for better or for worse.
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