Also I think a student prompting their supervisor to do work is actually out of line and can lead to worsening the relationship regardless.
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It's what this makes me feel (I am a phd student) if I am not allowed to remind my supervisors of very basic work requirements.
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I _never_ said you are not allowed. I said it's not your duty.
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What I did say is that if you take it upon yourself to remind your boss how and when to do their job it's very likely they won't like it.
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There's two elements to what I'm saying. One it's not your duty. Two if you do it be careful because it can be seen as rude.
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This all depends *a lot* on the supervisor. I hope one day when I supervise others they feel comfortable giving me feedback.
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Having said that, I also hope to have covered my job's basics! And set expectations / duties to expect from me.
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Exactly, but giving you feedback is their duty to many extents. E.g., everybody in lab should be expected to give feedback to manuscripts.
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Or give feedback to presentations, etc. But not expected, i.e., not obligated for manage you, the PI. It's not their duty to manage you.
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I don't think you're replying in good faith TBH, are you? I mean this whole thread is me defending the rights/obligations of students.
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I am saying they are not obliged to remind supervisors that they have to provide feedback.
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