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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      I think the implications of this thread could be seen as saying something different, so it's good to highlight we're not disagreeing.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      The deal between a PI and phd student is one of mutual trust. Each party will do their end of the deal without usurping or ignoring the

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      other. The student won't reply to journal editors without discussing with PI, the PI won't delete whole sections written by student without

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      explaining why, etc.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      In my opinion the expectation that a student should remind a PI is off. In the same way the expectation they should be friends is off.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      Doesn't mean it doesn't happen or it's always bad. But it's bad to expect it. Not part of the default deal.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @o_guest @raphavisses and

      If PI wants students to remind them, it's the PI's obligation to tell the students that if they want to they can, but it's not their duty.

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    8. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 15 Aug 2017
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      I agree w/ general philosophy, points about power unbalance, etc. Not here to defend supervisors in general nor myself in particular 1/n

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    9. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 15 Aug 2017
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      I don't expect my team to be "friends" but I am very worried by strong hierarchical relationships in science 2/n

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    10. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 15 Aug 2017
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      I want my team members 2feel completely comfortable telling me I am wrong - otherwise, it is the integrity of our work which is at risk 3/n

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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      Replying to @raphavisses @Julie_B92 and

      Can I ask where we said they shouldn't feel OK with saying you're wrong?

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        2. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 15 Aug 2017
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          u did not -but if I was punishg pple for reminding me of a deadline, I doubt that they would feel comfy challenging me on science either

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        3. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 15 Aug 2017
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          Anyway... I have to leave it here, at least for now: supervision meeting coming up! Have a good day!

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 15 Aug 2017
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          I never mentioned anybody being punished. I merely said it's not part of a student's duty and could also lead to friction.

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        5. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 16 Aug 2017
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          In unbalanced power relationship "friction" and fear of bad consequences/punishment not so different 1/n

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        6. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 16 Aug 2017
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          also Julie rightly highlighted PI = single most influence on ur qualif & career. 2/n

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        7. (((Raphael Levy)))‏ @raphavisses 16 Aug 2017
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          Can I stress again I am not defending PIs taking month/weeks giving feedback? That's bad. Very bad. 3/n

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 16 Aug 2017
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          Exactly.

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