Well, insisting we're not a movement = rhetorical play that has been used in and by other groups to sidestep criticism. I've seen it before.
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Replying to @o_guest @BrentWRoberts and
Does the movement refer mainly to those influencing others to do open science? Or also include anybody who just does open science themselves
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Replying to @CookieSci @o_guest and
Given the how sensitive those opposed to changing are, I suspect it includes anyone who does open science.
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Replying to @o_guest @BrentWRoberts and
Just to be clear, it's the latter then? In your understanding/opinion I mean. (Just want to understand what the debate is even about)
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Replying to @CookieSci @BrentWRoberts and
The debate, if you want to call it that, is what I already outlined. Not about breadth but existence.
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Replying to @o_guest @BrentWRoberts and
Okay, I think I see. From where I'm sitting there certainly exists a bona fide open science movement
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Replying to @CookieSci @o_guest and
And my point is, if this is true (& as I said elsewhere it is to some degree) then that is really a bad thing. It shouldn't be a club!
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Replying to @sampendu @CookieSci and
Anyway I'm happy to discuss in long form in comments on blog. Trying to stay out of endless twitter threads...
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Replying to @sampendu @CookieSci and
Feminism is a movement. I don't think movement entails club by definition.
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More explicitly, we can't solve the club-y aspect of #openscience by insisting it's not a movement. We have to improve and be inclusive.
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You're worried it's too club-y. We can't fix this by not calling it a movement.
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